Mare won't stand for breeding-ideas anyone?

Paxo · 05-18-2008, 08:33 AM

I totally agree about the hobbles, i was approached about using them by the mare owner and I said NO,i think it is an accident waiting to happen with ropes and contraptions. Ive been helping in the breeding shed for 25 years and doing lots of live covers, never used hobbles. I just cant see looking for that trouble.

Haas Horse Farm · 05-18-2008, 04:24 PM

Have you ever let Dusty be in the pasture with a mare or mares? Have you considered letting the mare run with him now and maybe just maybe if they get to be buddies now she might let him get real friendly later?

Fallon · 05-18-2008, 05:03 PM

We had this issue last year. The stallion we brought in was used to running with the mares. When the mare (who was in a very obvious flaming heat, but had an extremely traumatic breeding experience in the past) kept refusing him, we just turned them both out in the broodmare band together. He was a very well mannered stallion and if a mare said no, he left. No fuss, no kicks, no continual trying with him. He just left her alone when she said no.

After about 2 months of running together, she let him cover her and she is now due to foal in 2 weeks.

I would not reccomend doing this with just any stallion. This fella was extremely laid back and had always been turned out with pregnant mares. He is very easy to handle and very gentle with the mares. There are alot of risks to the mares and the stallion doing this, but it can work.

We'll find out later this year if she'll stand for hand cover after having a 'good' breeding experience, or not.

Haas Horse Farm · 05-18-2008, 05:24 PM

Good luck to you Fallon... I hope your mare will stand for it.

bnttyra · 05-18-2008, 07:09 PM

Well we had thought about doing that, I am just concerned she would kick the **** out of him and he would get hurt. She is used to being in a barn, has not had the luxury of being able to run out in a pasture with other horses.

Haas Horse Farm · 05-18-2008, 07:39 PM

Most stallions are self preserving... IF they have a large enough area... he will protect himself.

Fallon · 05-18-2008, 07:53 PM

Thank You Haas, I'm hoping she will allow hand cover now, but we will see.

I agree most stallions are very self preserving. We turned them out with 5 other mares on about 10 acres. He had plenty of room to run and hide when the ladies told him 'NO' and believe me, this guy ran and hid rather well.

Miss Neigh · 05-18-2008, 08:07 PM

just be careful because this mare could cause your stallion to loose confidence and make future breedings very difficult.

Haas Horse Farm · 05-18-2008, 08:12 PM

LOL I can honestly say that turning my youngsters out with the bred mares is the best thing that ever happens to them. I sure wish I could do that with the stallion in my wood lot now... Boy would that shut him up!!! LOL They really only learn from practical hands on mare taught experience.

Paxo · 05-19-2008, 03:59 PM

The only reason I had to take my young guy away from the bred girls was he was running them to much, they would get aggervated and run and he kept circling and shouldering them and this would go on and off all day long. couple of these girls had old injurys that it was not fair to them to let him harass them on and off all day. I opted to take him out , i felt sorry for the one girl with old stifle inury, he was getting punshed by her but she would still run.

05-18-2008, 05:03 PM	#43
Fallon Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West of the Alantic, East of the Pacific... Posts: 536 Images: 4	We had this issue last year. The stallion we brought in was used to running with the mares. When the mare (who was in a very obvious flaming heat, but had an extremely traumatic breeding experience in the past) kept refusing him, we just turned them both out in the broodmare band together. He was a very well mannered stallion and if a mare said no, he left. No fuss, no kicks, no continual trying with him. He just left her alone when she said no. After about 2 months of running together, she let him cover her and she is now due to foal in 2 weeks. I would not reccomend doing this with just any stallion. This fella was extremely laid back and had always been turned out with pregnant mares. He is very easy to handle and very gentle with the mares. There are alot of risks to the mares and the stallion doing this, but it can work. We'll find out later this year if she'll stand for hand cover after having a 'good' breeding experience, or not. __________________ Experience has been my Teacher, Life has been my classroom - myself.

05-18-2008, 07:09 PM	#45
bnttyra Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ARIZONA Posts: 2,314 Images: 76 Blog Entries: 18	Well we had thought about doing that, I am just concerned she would kick the ** out of him and he would get hurt. She is used to being in a barn, has not had the luxury of being able to run out in a pasture with other horses. __________________ Tyra Hounds & Horses "Patience is knowing, it will happen in time"** http://web.mac.com/bnttyra/TYRAHOUND...M/Welcome.html

05-18-2008, 07:53 PM	#47
Fallon Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West of the Alantic, East of the Pacific... Posts: 536 Images: 4	Thank You Haas, I'm hoping she will allow hand cover now, but we will see. I agree most stallions are very self preserving. We turned them out with 5 other mares on about 10 acres. He had plenty of room to run and hide when the ladies told him 'NO' and believe me, this guy ran and hid rather well. __________________ Experience has been my Teacher, Life has been my classroom - myself.

05-18-2008, 08:07 PM	#48
Miss Neigh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: qld, australia Posts: 1,935 Images: 59	just be careful because this mare could cause your stallion to loose confidence and make future breedings very difficult. __________________ Happiness is like a butterfly... pursue it and it will be beyond your grasp, but sit down and it may alight upon you

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05-18-2008, 08:33 AM	#41
Paxo Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 339	I totally agree about the hobbles, i was approached about using them by the mare owner and I said NO,i think it is an accident waiting to happen with ropes and contraptions. Ive been helping in the breeding shed for 25 years and doing lots of live covers, never used hobbles. I just cant see looking for that trouble.

05-19-2008, 03:59 PM	#50
Paxo Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 339	The only reason I had to take my young guy away from the bred girls was he was running them to much, they would get aggervated and run and he kept circling and shouldering them and this would go on and off all day long. couple of these girls had old injurys that it was not fair to them to let him harass them on and off all day. I opted to take him out , i felt sorry for the one girl with old stifle inury, he was getting punshed by her but she would still run.