Mare not interested in stallion

Miss Neigh · 09-01-2006, 01:48 PM

Honestly if you own the mare and don't wish too breed the mare, you have the right to say "no". The stud mustn't be all that fantastic if she needs you to breed your mare too him, to carry out the bloodline. I wouldn't do it that's forsure unless the stallion was excellent and i wanted to breed the mare and not use her for 17 months (preg and until weaning) and then get her back into shape again and that is hard work.

tightpaycheck · 09-01-2006, 01:53 PM

Nope not hers, but he has been around since he was little..and he is only a yearling. The other mares sure let me know when they were in heat though. And she has never done a thing, not even acted friendly towards him. I have the opposite side of things too, my other mare was in heat every time she saw a new horse, and most of the time for the colt.We sent her for live cover. After the 9th day of her letting him breed her I decided she wasn't going to stop and took her home.

Appylvr · 09-01-2006, 02:37 PM

I honestly think you shouldn't breed her and your friend sounds like they shouldn't be breeding either. There are enough unwanted horses in the world, going to slaughter or being abused and neglected to add to it more.

It's one thing if you want the foal and want to improve the breed, but just to continue a horse's "bloodlines" is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. What happens if the foal born is a colt? Is your friend going to wait until he fathers some more unexceptional foals so they can continue the "bloodline"? IMO if a stallion is a great example of his breed then of course breed him... anything else geld them as soon as possible.

I bred my mare because she was an excellent mare with excellent temperment and wanted a foal from her so badly. I chose a stallion that would compliment her, got a AMAZING colt and gelded him as soon as I could. He's 2 years old now and almost bombproof... I've had people tell me I should have left him a stallion, but I knew he wasn't great enough to be used for breeding.

Heavenly Jumper · 09-01-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Appylvr

I honestly think you shouldn't breed her and your friend sounds like they shouldn't be breeding either. There are enough unwanted horses in the world, going to slaughter or being abused and neglected to add to it more.

It's one thing if you want the foal and want to improve the breed, but just to continue a horse's "bloodlines" is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. What happens if the foal born is a colt? Is your friend going to wait until he fathers some more unexceptional foals so they can continue the "bloodline"? IMO if a stallion is a great example of his breed then of course breed him... anything else geld them as soon as possible.

I bred my mare because she was an excellent mare with excellent temperment and wanted a foal from her so badly. I chose a stallion that would compliment her, got a AMAZING colt and gelded him as soon as I could. He's 2 years old now and almost bombproof... I've had people tell me I should have left him a stallion, but I knew he wasn't great enough to be used for breeding.

Couldn't have said it better or nicer myself.

ches · 09-01-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RobinRivers

Geez i just asked a simple question, but to answer your question I have no idea why she wants to do that, wither its stupid or not, and yes the mare once again was in Heat.

If visible signs of being "in heat" are all that is required to know that the mare is about to ovulate and in the "correct" time of her heat to be bred, then there would be no need in this world for teaser stallions or ultrasounds to check for ripe follicles. Unless you had a vet come out and ultrasound your mare's overies, then no, you don't know for certain that she was in the correct time of her heat to receive the stud.

wrightdanes · 09-01-2006, 07:34 PM

Maybe size really does matter....

Feliche · 09-01-2006, 08:29 PM

Well...it's YOUR mare

if you don't want her bred, your friend cannot make you. There are too many foals in the world as it is...and you could lose her and the foal. If you don't even want her bred...then I would say probably don't do it. You don't have to.

Besides...there's something obviously wrong in my mind if your friend wants the stallion gelded, but also wants it bred. Maybe your friend just wants offspring for fun...but I really don't think this is a good idea. Not bashing you...just advising you.

paintmyworld · 09-02-2006, 03:05 AM

I sent one of my mares to a stud last year. She was a maiden mare and I told the stud owner that. She went to "KILL" the stallion as he went to serve her. A vet check showed us she was stuck in a spring heat. Where she showed signs of being in but would never accept him as she just wasnt ready.

Honestly if you dont want to breed your mare dont. Its more than getting her in foal. There are loads of vet bills that comes with having foals. But then I am an overprotective grandmother who only wants the best for all of her kids.

But if something goes wrong with the birth then you could lose your mare and your foal. Who is paying to look after the mare while she is in foal? You or your friend? Who is going to pay for the feed of the mare while in foal and after she has foaled? Cos once they foal then the mare needs extra feed to give to the foal. And depending on your mare, if she is like my tb, she will need about a bale of hay a day plus plenty of hard feeds as she gives her all to the foal and ends up skin and bones.

Just some things for you to ponder on.

RobinRivers · 09-02-2006, 05:00 AM

well thats the agreement that she has to take care of her until she foals.

Well i know that its the stupidest idead, but I have already made the agreement and it will be hard to go back on the deal.

Anyways thatnks for all the advise..

Ya I just think she likes seeing her stallion get some- sorry but thats about it...without respect to the mares.

I am gonna try and get out of it, but I have to figure out how,

paintmyworld · 09-02-2006, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinRivers

well thats the agreement that she has to take care of her until she foals.

Well i know that its the stupidest idead, but I have already made the agreement and it will be hard to go back on the deal.

Anyways thatnks for all the advise..

Ya I just think she likes seeing her stallion get some- sorry but thats about it...without respect to the mares.

I am gonna try and get out of it, but I have to figure out how,

Is there a written contract? Or is it a verbal agreement?

09-01-2006, 02:37 PM	#13
Appylvr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,923 Images: 307	I honestly think you shouldn't breed her and your friend sounds like they shouldn't be breeding either. There are enough unwanted horses in the world, going to slaughter or being abused and neglected to add to it more. It's one thing if you want the foal and want to improve the breed, but just to continue a horse's "bloodlines" is the stupidest reason I've ever heard. What happens if the foal born is a colt? Is your friend going to wait until he fathers some more unexceptional foals so they can continue the "bloodline"? IMO if a stallion is a great example of his breed then of course breed him... anything else geld them as soon as possible. I bred my mare because she was an excellent mare with excellent temperment and wanted a foal from her so badly. I chose a stallion that would compliment her, got a AMAZING colt and gelded him as soon as I could. He's 2 years old now and almost bombproof... I've had people tell me I should have left him a stallion, but I knew he wasn't great enough to be used for breeding. __________________ ~Tonya~ Teak~Coco~Baylee~Dolly~Rosie~Shilo~Jazzy A solitary ride through the bush is more beneficial than six months with the best psychiatrist

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09-01-2006, 01:48 PM	#11
Miss Neigh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: qld, australia Posts: 1,867 Images: 59	Honestly if you own the mare and don't wish too breed the mare, you have the right to say "no". The stud mustn't be all that fantastic if she needs you to breed your mare too him, to carry out the bloodline. I wouldn't do it that's forsure unless the stallion was excellent and i wanted to breed the mare and not use her for 17 months (preg and until weaning) and then get her back into shape again and that is hard work.

09-01-2006, 01:53 PM	#12
tightpaycheck Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NE PA Posts: 1,808 Images: 2	Nope not hers, but he has been around since he was little..and he is only a yearling. The other mares sure let me know when they were in heat though. And she has never done a thing, not even acted friendly towards him. I have the opposite side of things too, my other mare was in heat every time she saw a new horse, and most of the time for the colt.We sent her for live cover. After the 9th day of her letting him breed her I decided she wasn't going to stop and took her home.

09-01-2006, 07:34 PM	#16
wrightdanes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 916 Images: 1	Maybe size really does matter....

09-02-2006, 03:05 AM	#18
paintmyworld Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 131	I sent one of my mares to a stud last year. She was a maiden mare and I told the stud owner that. She went to "KILL" the stallion as he went to serve her. A vet check showed us she was stuck in a spring heat. Where she showed signs of being in but would never accept him as she just wasnt ready. Honestly if you dont want to breed your mare dont. Its more than getting her in foal. There are loads of vet bills that comes with having foals. But then I am an overprotective grandmother who only wants the best for all of her kids. But if something goes wrong with the birth then you could lose your mare and your foal. Who is paying to look after the mare while she is in foal? You or your friend? Who is going to pay for the feed of the mare while in foal and after she has foaled? Cos once they foal then the mare needs extra feed to give to the foal. And depending on your mare, if she is like my tb, she will need about a bale of hay a day plus plenty of hard feeds as she gives her all to the foal and ends up skin and bones. Just some things for you to ponder on.

09-02-2006, 05:00 AM	#19
RobinRivers Full Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 149 Images: 31	well thats the agreement that she has to take care of her until she foals. Well i know that its the stupidest idead, but I have already made the agreement and it will be hard to go back on the deal. Anyways thatnks for all the advise.. Ya I just think she likes seeing her stallion get some- sorry but thats about it...without respect to the mares. I am gonna try and get out of it, but I have to figure out how,