making the transition...(Western to english)

Friesiangirl · 01-03-2006, 09:14 PM

how do you go about turning a western horse english? say just a trail horse, and you want them to start getting in the propper dressage frame and such.

luvs2ride79 · 01-03-2006, 09:18 PM

Start with just basic balanced movement. Use transitions, figures, and transitions within the gait to get the horse moving nicely. Then worry about frame. The horse must be truly balanced at all gaits and in transitions before he can carry himself properly.

~Barbara

Friesiangirl · 01-03-2006, 09:19 PM

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sissy · 01-03-2006, 09:20 PM

well im doing this right now but my mare has a natural head set so i just have to have her nose tuckt in........i start with a sursingal(sp?) and side rines

horsegent · 01-04-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sissy

so i just have to have her nose tuckt in........i start with a sursingal(sp?) and side rines

No

that isn't what you do at all.

Can I suggest you start by reading the postings on the forum regarding headset and outline and then find a good Riding Instructor to work with you and your horse.

Shotgun93 · 01-04-2006, 12:58 PM

Any horse, english or western should have proper collection, it doesn't matter which saddle you have on.
The transition should be as simple as changing saddles and learning how to balance in an english saddle. But, achieving proper collection should be done with the help of a trainer. There are a buch of threads about collection and headset, you should read up those, they will help you with the basics.

Friesiangirl · 01-04-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotgun93

Any horse, english or western should have proper collection, it doesn't matter which saddle you have on.
The transition should be as simple as changing saddles and learning how to balance in an english saddle. But, achieving proper collection should be done with the help of a trainer. There are a buch of threads about collection and headset, you should read up those, they will help you with the basics.

i already know a bit about collection and such, i just wondered if say, i got a western trail horse, thats young, and through it in to dressage or hunters lol

Shotgun93 · 01-04-2006, 02:21 PM

My horse switches back and forth between reining, eventing, working cow horse and dressage. I don't find much of a difference with the exception of the saddle I use and the bit, and the way I hold the reins.

Friesiangirl · 01-04-2006, 02:50 PM

okay, thanks!!!

paint_gurl_101 · 01-04-2006, 04:47 PM

i think that the horse would get confused about what it's s'pposd (sp?) to do... 'arn't i s'pposd to go AROUND the barrel?!?'

01-03-2006, 09:14 PM	#1
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01-03-2006, 09:19 PM	#3
Friesiangirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 9,501 Images: 179 Blog Entries: 22	thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ I cannot be expected to think wihtout a good powerbar and some coffee. Stargate Fans Unite.

01-03-2006, 09:20 PM	#4
Sissy Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rainier, WA Posts: 1,574 Images: 265 Blog Entries: 4	well im doing this right now but my mare has a natural head set so i just have to have her nose tuckt in........i start with a sursingal(sp?) and side rines __________________ When I'm upon your back its just you and I in a forever dance that last a life time. Proud owner of Honor-5yr Shire gelding Myspace:http://www.myspace.com/whinnie1

01-04-2006, 12:58 PM	#6
Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,390 Images: 124	Any horse, english or western should have proper collection, it doesn't matter which saddle you have on. The transition should be as simple as changing saddles and learning how to balance in an english saddle. But, achieving proper collection should be done with the help of a trainer. There are a buch of threads about collection and headset, you should read up those, they will help you with the basics. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

01-04-2006, 02:21 PM	#8
Shotgun93 Senior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southwest SD Posts: 13,390 Images: 124	My horse switches back and forth between reining, eventing, working cow horse and dressage. I don't find much of a difference with the exception of the saddle I use and the bit, and the way I hold the reins. __________________ In the quiet light of the stable, you hear a muffled snort, the stamp of a hoof, a friendly nicker. Gentle eyes inquire, "How was your day old friend?" and suddenly, all your troubles fade away. -Author Unknown

01-04-2006, 02:50 PM	#9
Friesiangirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 9,501 Images: 179 Blog Entries: 22	okay, thanks!!! __________________ I cannot be expected to think wihtout a good powerbar and some coffee. Stargate Fans Unite.

01-04-2006, 04:47 PM	#10
paint_gurl_101 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hippie Town Or. Posts: 680 Images: 40 Blog Entries: 7	i think that the horse would get confused about what it's s'pposd (sp?) to do... 'arn't i s'pposd to go AROUND the barrel?!?'

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