[Fire_Dawn]

Originally Posted by ShowJumper23

I"m not sure, but I think that she means that he is being neglected, and although he isn't skinny, he is in otherwise bad shape, with his feed/heaves/hooves etc.

*nods* yep thats it. It's kinda why I'm not sure that shes TECHNICALLY doing anything wrong...

[Racket]

Originally Posted by Fire_Dawn

ya, sorry hes fat lol. I meant that it wasn't like he was one of those really skinny horses that you hear most of the abuse stories are about. I'm pretty sure the hay was mouldy (which is technically okay if you soak it first, right? I've never fed it. ) Im sorry guys I didn't read the post over... I forgot I had to go to the dentist and didn't have time.
I just don't want to get in trouble or anything if I called the SPCA, and I heard that they don't do anything anyway unless its really serious.
Thanks guys

Well maybe having the farrier call is better then. He should be quilified enough to stress the condition of this horse to authorities.

[Vengeance]

I always thought it was dangerous. Around here almost everything is dangerous , and I got yelled at by the BO who just happened to be walking by for sitting on the grass near the picnic table about 5 feet away from the path where the horses walked out of the arena during a lesson because I might get stepped on. And all the horses there at the time were bombproof lazy lesson horses.

I guess it is dangerous... I've never really thought of it as 'dangerous', but yeah, it is... I guess I'm just used to doing it. I've never been told not to, and I have a lot (too much, actually) trust in my mare... Lol. No one really cares around here, anyway...

[Haas Horse Farm]

I would have the farrier stop and see if she would like his services... Often people like your friend need educated because clearly she does not understand about feed and hoof care.

Also I am confused if you two are good friends why you have never made any suggestions or offered web sites or pamphlets on equine nutrition and farrier care.

[faroutfax]

Originally Posted by Fire_Dawn

I always thought it was dangerous. Around here almost everything is dangerous

Dangerous to the person, yes! but basically everything you do with horses is dangerous so...

But think about it if the horse moves the horse isn't going to he hurt, she will. If anytihng that part is human abuse


As far as the horse's condition, I think I need more information. I don't want to say anytihng until I know everything

[shymare]

Two things -

1 - sitting on the ground around horses is dangerous.

2- Maybe she just doesn't realize how bad he's gotten. Maybe she sees him every day that she hasn't really noticed the weight gain/etc. I know I don't know the whole story, but I would be tempted to try and help her improve his condition before calling the authorities. If she is unwilling, then you may have to pick up the phone.

[Blistering Winds]

moldy hay period is bad. Doesn't matter if you soak it or not.


If there is a barn owner, why is this barn owner not doing anything about it? Does the barn owner not watch what comes in or out of her barn as far as hay is concerned? I know if mine saw moldy hay, he'd be up in arms!!!

Are you sure it isn't a rich alfalfa, and it is a deep green??? In some lights, alfalfa can look black....



In the end, if there is a question, contact the SPCA or whomever handles the livestock cases in your area.

it can be anonymous. And if there is nothing, there will be no case. However the "showing up" can be enough to straighten some into doing right.

The farrier should really stress to them about the proper ins and outs from his side of things.

and if that horse was at my barn, i'd definitely be interjecting some opinions into the mix as well to help educate these people. Moreso the parents over the child.

[Travis Rox]

Originally Posted by Vengeance

I guess it is dangerous... I've never really thought of it as 'dangerous', but yeah, it is... I guess I'm just used to doing it. I've never been told not to, and I have a lot (too much, actually) trust in my mare... Lol. No one really cares around here, anyway...

I do it all the time too actually. I put way too much trust into the horses I work with too...I've sat under a 7 year old green broke 17.3 hh in the field with nothing on him. He was fine.

I know I can get hurt very badly but I'm willing to take the risks. I guess it is all up to your personal opinion.

[Fire_Dawn]

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

moldy hay period is bad. Doesn't matter if you soak it or not.


If there is a barn owner, why is this barn owner not doing anything about it? Does the barn owner not watch what comes in or out of her barn as far as hay is concerned? I know if mine saw moldy hay, he'd be up in arms!!!

Are you sure it isn't a rich alfalfa, and it is a deep green??? In some lights, alfalfa can look black....

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She keeps him in a feild near the barn. I know that the BO did talk to her when he was at the barn.
She isnt really my friend, she just was in grade 5.
I did tell her that the vet was coming on the 28th, and that the BO would share the call with one extra person, but she said something like "thanks, but I don't use that vet" and walked away. So I have no idea if she actually is going to take him to a vet, but I'm sure that the BO will make sure he gets one because he lives so close and it isnt like she doesnt care.
Now apperantly she takes him to the farrier every 3 visits (he comes every 3 weeks).
If he was my horse I would deffinately be giving him something for his eyes and heaves.

[ShezaBayDoc]

She said he wasn't emaciated or anything.