Is he to thin?

Chester · 11-03-2009, 05:42 AM

To the OP, since your horse is a wind ****** have you got a collar for him? He could be spending his grazing time sucking instead. Also have him checked for ulcers.

monique09 · 11-03-2009, 01:26 PM

I am currently feeding him 1 scoop of millrun one scoop of calm performer 3 scoops of chalf. I bought him a collar yesturday, I just hope its on right. my budgets not to bad i think i can afford about $50 a week i buy the millrun and calm performer one week and then the bag of chalf the following week so its not one huge bill every fortnight. is this feed ok? should i increase the amount? ohh and i also just started putting copper sulphate in his feed to help with the windsucking problem. Thanks everyone

jedy · 11-03-2009, 01:42 PM

I had 15 yo horse in last year who was windsucker. Collar would make him unhappy and miserable. He needed to spend some time every day inside to stuff his stomach. Putt on lovely muscle. He also did better when had chopped hay and alfa alfa available than grass. (just my 2 cents)

pippy · 11-03-2009, 08:48 PM

What - wait!?! -

copper sulfate - you feeding that to your horse? Can you explain that to me - its a corrosive, a chemical that can irritate the skin.... seriously intruged and slightly shcoked - can you PLEASE explain!! Why/how much/whats is supposed to do.....

SL - our Sugar beet has just risen to over $50 for 20kg bag..... 12 months ago it was only $35... no longer feeding it as I can't justify the cost. Speedibeet and Ezybeet - both same price.
Speedibeet FYI - most horses around here aren't that happy on it (well they don't scoff it like they do the ezi) and it goes off quicker once wet is what I found, we had it intorduced about 18months ago - refuse to use it now after I found several dead rats in the feed.... even worse was the feet that came out once soaked LMAO.

monique09 · 11-04-2009, 01:06 AM

i read it in a book called natural horse care it talks about how alot of australian soils haven't got enough copper in them and a low level of copper in horses can be part of the reason why horses windsuck. there is pages and pages of info about it in this book that im not going to go through it all. i then also spoke with my produce store who knows my horses and what i feed them it is only a very small amount that goes into his feed and i dont put it in every day too much copper sulphate can become quite bad. i have heard of other remedies but hopefully this one works if not i will let you know and try some of the others.

zomer · 11-04-2009, 10:28 AM

i don't think he looks that thin- he has nice muscle - could use more but i would watch to see that he doesn't get lighter than he is. personally i wouldn't worry about it- slightly lean is a healthier way for all mammals to live- for digestive system and skeletal structure.

hil529 · 11-04-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zomer

i don't think he looks that thin- he has nice muscle - could use more but i would watch to see that he doesn't get lighter than he is. personally i wouldn't worry about it- slightly lean is a healthier way for all mammals to live- for digestive system and skeletal structure.

i have to disagree ... i cant say anything on feeds as I am not familiar with anythign you mentioned, but I have to say that he is certainly lacking in muscle and weight. However, he didnt look much better in the first picture (which you cant expand by the way .. the link seems to be broken). He really has no top line muscle at all and just seems weak all over. I agree with giving him free choice hay .. all day .. all night .. every day. It will help tons.

Also, it never hurts to check/treat for ulcers. could be a BIG cause!

He isnt in a horrible weight, but thin by my standards. JMO

Lou3 · 11-04-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hil529

i have to disagree ... i cant say anything on feeds as I am not familiar with anythign you mentioned, but I have to say that he is certainly lacking in muscle and weight. However, he didnt look much better in the first picture (which you cant expand by the way .. the link seems to be broken). He really has no top line muscle at all and just seems weak all over. I agree with giving him free choice hay .. all day .. all night .. every day. It will help tons.

Also, it never hurts to check/treat for ulcers. could be a BIG cause!

He isnt in a horrible weight, but thin by my standards. JMO

As you say he isnt a horrible weight so I'm a little confused as to what you're disagreeing with? It IS medically healthier for him to be slightly underweight than slightly overweight. Considering the majority of horses are kept slightly overweight our perception of what is healthy is very distorted.
He doesnt have the greatest muscle tone, but thats nothing to do with how much fat he has.

monique09 · 11-04-2009, 07:02 PM

I don't think he was getting much work at all before I got him but he's back into it now just so I can build up the muscle but I'm not wanting to work him to hard as I don't want him to lose more weight. I have increased his feed now and will look into buying a round bale for him. Thanks everyone

xlilxonex · 11-05-2009, 03:09 AM

Obviously i'm in Australia so not much help with feed.
But congrats on the new horse =)

As far as to thin? Yes, I prefer their ribs not to be showing however I do understand he IS in a new place... As far as the copper... I wouldn't....

11-03-2009, 05:42 AM	#11
Chester Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: inland of the coral sea Posts: 13,479 Images: 869	To the OP, since your horse is a wind ****** have you got a collar for him? He could be spending his grazing time sucking instead. Also have him checked for ulcers. __________________ Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI Senior Australian Correspondent Is it full moon time again? Did the cereal truck overturn and fruitloops got spilt? Thanks for your time,then you can thank me for mine, after that's said, forget it. Rodriguouz

11-03-2009, 08:48 PM	#14
pippy Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,842 Images: 128 Blog Entries: 7	What - wait!?! - copper sulfate - you feeding that to your horse? Can you explain that to me - its a corrosive, a chemical that can irritate the skin.... seriously intruged and slightly shcoked - can you PLEASE explain!! Why/how much/whats is supposed to do..... SL - our Sugar beet has just risen to over $50 for 20kg bag..... 12 months ago it was only $35... no longer feeding it as I can't justify the cost. Speedibeet and Ezybeet - both same price. Speedibeet FYI - most horses around here aren't that happy on it (well they don't scoff it like they do the ezi) and it goes off quicker once wet is what I found, we had it intorduced about 18months ago - refuse to use it now after I found several dead rats in the feed.... even worse was the feet that came out once soaked LMAO. __________________ Pip + Turbo Living A healthy lifestyle only deprives you of fat and lethargy. Always remember that using your hands BEFORE your driving aids is the same as picking up the telephone before it rings. Why would you pick up the phone? No one is there!

11-05-2009, 03:09 AM	#20
xlilxonex Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,326 Images: 24 Blog Entries: 1	Obviously i'm in Australia so not much help with feed. But congrats on the new horse =) As far as to thin? Yes, I prefer their ribs not to be showing however I do understand he IS in a new place... As far as the copper... I wouldn't.... __________________ I <3 My Curly http://bbspinnaker.webs.com/

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11-03-2009, 01:26 PM	#12
monique09 Full Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 208 Images: 78 Blog Entries: 1	I am currently feeding him 1 scoop of millrun one scoop of calm performer 3 scoops of chalf. I bought him a collar yesturday, I just hope its on right. my budgets not to bad i think i can afford about $50 a week i buy the millrun and calm performer one week and then the bag of chalf the following week so its not one huge bill every fortnight. is this feed ok? should i increase the amount? ohh and i also just started putting copper sulphate in his feed to help with the windsucking problem. Thanks everyone

11-03-2009, 01:42 PM	#13
jedy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,532 Images: 48	I had 15 yo horse in last year who was windsucker. Collar would make him unhappy and miserable. He needed to spend some time every day inside to stuff his stomach. Putt on lovely muscle. He also did better when had chopped hay and alfa alfa available than grass. (just my 2 cents)

11-04-2009, 01:06 AM	#15
monique09 Full Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 208 Images: 78 Blog Entries: 1	i read it in a book called natural horse care it talks about how alot of australian soils haven't got enough copper in them and a low level of copper in horses can be part of the reason why horses windsuck. there is pages and pages of info about it in this book that im not going to go through it all. i then also spoke with my produce store who knows my horses and what i feed them it is only a very small amount that goes into his feed and i dont put it in every day too much copper sulphate can become quite bad. i have heard of other remedies but hopefully this one works if not i will let you know and try some of the others.

11-04-2009, 10:28 AM	#16
zomer Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE Wisconsin, USA Posts: 1,132 Images: 101	i don't think he looks that thin- he has nice muscle - could use more but i would watch to see that he doesn't get lighter than he is. personally i wouldn't worry about it- slightly lean is a healthier way for all mammals to live- for digestive system and skeletal structure.

11-04-2009, 07:02 PM	#19
monique09 Full Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 208 Images: 78 Blog Entries: 1	I don't think he was getting much work at all before I got him but he's back into it now just so I can build up the muscle but I'm not wanting to work him to hard as I don't want him to lose more weight. I have increased his feed now and will look into buying a round bale for him. Thanks everyone