Is he stallion quality?

accphotography · 01-10-2008, 07:46 PM

Yes the Champagne is for 2yos.

I have a great grand-daughter of his too come to think of it. She looks nothing like him. She looks JUST LIKE her grand-father (son of Sec.).

ACC

Acme Acres · 01-10-2008, 08:03 PM

One word for Secretariat. Balance. He's a very balanced stallion all and all. He's not heavy in the chest/light in the hip or vice versa. That's part of what makes him have "perfect" conformation. And I think even at the age the older photos of Secretariat were taken at, his back is much better than either AP Indy or Storm Cat.

GingerSnap · 01-10-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandra-A1

Secretariat was considered by many to have near-perfect conformation.

I did not know that Ladys Secret was a daughter of Secretariat...I loved watching that horse run, she was such a pretty girl.

Oh and for the record when I seen the first picture I was like yuck look at that neck...then felt pretty silly for not realizing who he was..

Xiphias · 01-10-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GingerSnap

I did not know that Ladys Secret was a daughter of Secretariat...I loved watching that horse run, she was such a pretty girl.

Oh and for the record when I seen the first picture I was like yuck look at that neck...then felt pretty silly for not realizing who he was..

Don't feel bad I thought the same thing about how his neck tied in with his chest

and I have his breyer model sitting right here in the office!

Cathy

accphotography · 01-10-2008, 08:59 PM

Very well balanced indeed imo.

ACC

lips · 01-10-2008, 10:18 PM

Secretariat never should have been kept a breeding stallion, but because of his performance alone he was. But his conformation is quite poor, and it shows in what he produced as a sire.......nothing noteworthy. He was just a freak of nature in the racing world, that's it.

Bar N K · 01-10-2008, 11:45 PM

If you say Secretariat was a freak, so was Seabiscut I guess. The little horse many say couldn't but did and did it well.........

JBandRio · 01-11-2008, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lips

Secretariat never should have been kept a breeding stallion, but because of his performance alone he was. But his conformation is quite poor, and it shows in what he produced as a sire.......nothing noteworthy. He was just a freak of nature in the racing world, that's it.

Would you mind telling us why you think he was so poorly conformed? He was indeed quite a freak of nature with that huge heart and that GINORMOUS stride. Was he perfect? Not according to some disciplines, but for racing he was pretty darn nice. Combine that with the fact that as a broodmare sire he excels, it's hard to say, after the fact, that he should have been gelded.

Lou3 · 01-11-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bar N K

If you say Secretariat was a freak, so was Seabiscut I guess. The little horse many say couldn't but did and did it well.........

They both were - they both had poor conformation yet ran exceptionally well - and then bombed completely as breeding stallions producing poor performing offspring.

Both are very good adverts for "it doesnt matter how well it performs if the conformation isnt right DONT breed it"

Acme Acres · 01-11-2008, 06:38 AM

Not every horse is suppost to be a good sire or dam and that's why registries track broodmare sires! Doesn't have to be a supermodel to be a good breeding candidate.

01-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#42
Acme Acres Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,114 Images: 397	One word for Secretariat. Balance. He's a very balanced stallion all and all. He's not heavy in the chest/light in the hip or vice versa. That's part of what makes him have "perfect" conformation. And I think even at the age the older photos of Secretariat were taken at, his back is much better than either AP Indy or Storm Cat. __________________ *Acme Acres* Home of Reflections Playboy & ShowHorseSupplies.com www.azpainthorses.com

01-11-2008, 06:38 AM	#50
Acme Acres Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,114 Images: 397	Not every horse is suppost to be a good sire or dam and that's why registries track broodmare sires! Doesn't have to be a supermodel to be a good breeding candidate. __________________ *Acme Acres* Home of Reflections Playboy & ShowHorseSupplies.com www.azpainthorses.com

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01-10-2008, 07:46 PM	#41
accphotography Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,714	Yes the Champagne is for 2yos. I have a great grand-daughter of his too come to think of it. She looks nothing like him. She looks JUST LIKE her grand-father (son of Sec.). ACC

01-10-2008, 08:59 PM	#45
accphotography Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,714	Very well balanced indeed imo. ACC

01-10-2008, 10:18 PM	#46
lips Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 242 Images: 2	Secretariat never should have been kept a breeding stallion, but because of his performance alone he was. But his conformation is quite poor, and it shows in what he produced as a sire.......nothing noteworthy. He was just a freak of nature in the racing world, that's it.

01-10-2008, 11:45 PM	#47
Bar N K Full Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Redwater, Ab Canada Posts: 144	If you say Secretariat was a freak, so was Seabiscut I guess. The little horse many say couldn't but did and did it well.........