Interesting TWH show rule...

shymare · 08-20-2006, 03:46 PM

This comes from the TWH Rulebook, July 2006, page 63.

"A stallion may not be exhibited in any class in which a lady or youth is to exhibit, with the exception of Ladies' Open or Amateur Specialty Classes, and Walking Pony Classes."

Do they actually inforce this rule?

cherazam · 08-20-2006, 04:07 PM

Yes most likely they do. Thats a pretty weird rule though.

megan_kat22 · 08-20-2006, 04:10 PM

weird... why?

willeys bonanza · 08-20-2006, 04:30 PM

because it says that a woman cant show a stally, if im not mistaken. around here you cant show a stally if you are under 18, I understand the age rule, cuz i mean what happens if a kid is at a show with a stally and he covers a mare

. It prolly would never happen but i guess they dont want to take any chances! lol but the woman thing, i totally dont get.

SilentSpring · 08-20-2006, 06:51 PM

I understand about the under 18 thing, and its a common rule with stallions...but women?? Sorry, but I think that needs to be revised...that's just sexist, in my opinion :|

wrightdanes · 08-20-2006, 10:02 PM

This rule has to do with a stallion named Champagne Watchout shown in 1998 by Jennie and Nathanael Jackson. They wanted to show without pads in the traditioanlly padded (and sored?) stallion class. http://www.walkinonranch.com/1999Celebration.html

VERY INTERESTING STORY!

wrightdanes · 08-20-2006, 10:03 PM

It is sexist. But that's only the beginning. Look at the soring violations and the winning horses. http://www.soundhorse.org/usda_violations__2001.htm

Cool Time 84 · 08-20-2006, 10:43 PM

I cannot believe that they know do not allow women over 18 to show stallions, I'll be contacting Mrs. Joni Jenne tomorrow and talking to her. She'll explain everything to me. It very well may be a typo.

tn walker · 08-21-2006, 08:22 AM

No, it is not a typo, and Joni will explain it wonderfully to you! (she's a great explainer!

) You have to remember the history behind our breed: horses that were bred on old southern plantations. Our breed tries very much to keep a LOT of history alive in our classes, as we are very proud of it. In those days, women were "frail plantation ladies" who couldn't handle a rowdy stallion

Most women aren't offended by it on our show circuit, as there are plenty of Ladies open classes and TONS and TONS of amatuer specialty classes (specialty means two gaits are exhibited). We think about it more in terms of youth than in terms of the ladies. And YES it is VERY stritctly enforced.

Lindsayanne · 08-21-2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrightdanes

This rule has to do with a stallion named Champagne Watchout shown in 1998 by Jennie and Nathanael Jackson. They wanted to show without pads in the traditioanlly padded (and sored?) stallion class. http://www.walkinonranch.com/1999Celebration.html

VERY INTERESTING STORY!

I just read that whole thing (whew!) but now I get it. Dirty...

08-20-2006, 03:46 PM	#1
shymare Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,735 Images: 8	Interesting TWH show rule... This comes from the TWH Rulebook, July 2006, page 63. "A stallion may not be exhibited in any class in which a lady or youth is to exhibit, with the exception of Ladies' Open or Amateur Specialty Classes, and Walking Pony Classes." Do they actually inforce this rule?

08-20-2006, 04:07 PM	#2
cherazam Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 636	Yes most likely they do. Thats a pretty weird rule though. __________________ Jack: My compass works just fine Elizabeth: You know Will has taught me how to handle a sword. Jack: Like I said-persuade me.

08-20-2006, 04:10 PM	#3
megan_kat22 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southeast Texas ;) Posts: 1,834 Images: 134	weird... why? __________________ -Megan

08-20-2006, 04:30 PM	#4
willeys bonanza Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,051 Images: 44	because it says that a woman cant show a stally, if im not mistaken. around here you cant show a stally if you are under 18, I understand the age rule, cuz i mean what happens if a kid is at a show with a stally and he covers a mare . It prolly would never happen but i guess they dont want to take any chances! lol but the woman thing, i totally dont get. __________________ Le Comte d'Artagnan Willey's Bonanza Tokaj Go Red,Go Black, Go Bearcats, Fight, Fight, Fight, B.E...A.R....C.A.T.S, Go UC!

08-20-2006, 06:51 PM	#5
SilentSpring Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,155 Images: 274	I understand about the under 18 thing, and its a common rule with stallions...but women?? Sorry, but I think that needs to be revised...that's just sexist, in my opinion :\| __________________ Liz ♥ Tomahawk ♥ ♥ Silent Spring ♥ Horsecrazy Design

08-20-2006, 10:02 PM	#6
wrightdanes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 921 Images: 1	This rule has to do with a stallion named Champagne Watchout shown in 1998 by Jennie and Nathanael Jackson. They wanted to show without pads in the traditioanlly padded (and sored?) stallion class. http://www.walkinonranch.com/1999Celebration.html VERY INTERESTING STORY!

08-20-2006, 10:03 PM	#7
wrightdanes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 921 Images: 1	It is sexist. But that's only the beginning. Look at the soring violations and the winning horses. http://www.soundhorse.org/usda_violations__2001.htm

08-20-2006, 10:43 PM	#8
Cool Time 84 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Posts: 6,027 Images: 883 Blog Entries: 2	I cannot believe that they know do not allow women over 18 to show stallions, I'll be contacting Mrs. Joni Jenne tomorrow and talking to her. She'll explain everything to me. It very well may be a typo. __________________ *STOP = Spin Tires On Pavement!* *Proud Owner of Sonnys Vegasshowgirl* *And proud mommy of 3*

08-21-2006, 08:22 AM	#9
tn walker Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NC Posts: 1,332 Images: 36	No, it is not a typo, and Joni will explain it wonderfully to you! (she's a great explainer! ) You have to remember the history behind our breed: horses that were bred on old southern plantations. Our breed tries very much to keep a LOT of history alive in our classes, as we are very proud of it. In those days, women were "frail plantation ladies" who couldn't handle a rowdy stallion Most women aren't offended by it on our show circuit, as there are plenty of Ladies open classes and TONS and TONS of amatuer specialty classes (specialty means two gaits are exhibited). We think about it more in terms of youth than in terms of the ladies. And YES it is VERY stritctly enforced. __________________ My horse is SPOTTED. Paint comes in cans and Pintos are beans Shady Oaks Farm Specializing in the sound and versatile TWH and SSH www.freewebs.com/shadyoaksfarm

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