I'm green my money is green - lets spend it on something green! VENTING

AnnaBelle02 · 11-09-2004, 12:28 PM

Honestly! What goes through some people's heads!!???

Ok I'm venting a bit but I know you guys will understand. Our neighbours have just rescently bought two horses. Well last night the mother called me up to know if I would be interested in helping them with one of the horses (the oldest of the two - one is 3 and the other is soon to be two). Ok so first off I'm thinking sure no prob but I want info. Well I knew the mother has taken a few riding lessons from conversations I've had with her in the past so I wanted to know how much experience her 14, 12 and 9 year old girls had under their belts. WELL it seems that the girls can walk, trot, canter and do small jumps - all this having been taught to them by a 13 year old friend just down the road!!
Then as I said they bought these two young horses and the 3 year old they would like to ride only problem is - they can't figure out how to get him to lunge, learn rein commands, or wear a saddle - and they don't want to fall off him in the process of training so BINGO next thought - why don't we ask someone else to do it for us.

I don't know but based on the way she talked to me, it seems like she just expects me to go over their pop up on him show her that he knows walk trot canter commands and can be controlled and everything is just peachy. IF she is expecting that they have to be more out to lunch than I thought!

I'm sorry but it just ticks me off when people think that 1. they know enough to handle a youngster because they've had a few lessons and can control some comatose school horse, 2. expect training to take minimal amount of time and effort and still turn out some amazing bomb proof horse, 3. and the most obvious - buy GREEN horses for GREEN riders!! How is that safe!?!?
Well needless to say I'm going to help them - but I hope I can drill it into their heads enough that they should send him to a proper trainer (I'm a masters student - I don't have time to be over there every day working with him and I have my own foal and mare that I want to spend my time with) and that there is no way I'm getting on to a horse without it having any proper background knowledge of basic ground commands first - Oh gosh I'm fuming, I should of said no, but perhaps when I start showing them things they need to do with him first they will realize how much commitment this takes and send him for training instead.

Grrr ok, I think I've worked it out - I'm not going to be preachy or rude I'll do my best to show them what I can in 1 hour a week and then try to convince them to send him to a real trainer.
But honestly how mnay times do we have to see this before people will figure it out!? Green + Green = Red

Shotgun93 · 11-09-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnaBelle02

I'm sorry but it just ticks me off when people think that 1. they know enough to handle a youngster because they've had a few lessons and can control some comatose school horse, 2. expect training to take minimal amount of time and effort and still turn out some amazing bomb proof horse, 3. and the most obvious - buy GREEN horses for GREEN riders!! How is that safe!?!?

But honestly how mnay times do we have to see this before people will figure it out!? Green + Green = Red

I can't tell you how many of these green = green people come through our barn. It just frustrates me to no end. But, I suppose if they weren't around, some of us would be with out a job.
Is the three year old even broke? Do they realize that even if they "know" hoe to jump that the horse will not be ready for some time? uugghh, no I am getting worked up. I hope that they quickly figure out that they have gotton in way over their heads.

arabchic · 11-09-2004, 12:40 PM

Well it sounds as if you have your work cut out for ya, good luck!! Maybe they just need to learn a lesson the hard way, i just hope that they dont get hurt in the process.

AnnaBelle02 · 11-09-2004, 12:43 PM

Well when I asked for info she told me - they have been on him bare back and only leading him because he isn't confident in what to do when there is no one right beside him (hense not being able to lunge) and he will take the bit "we just aren't sure how to teach him how to turn or stop! haha" ya haha indeed and you expect someone to just hop up there and *snap* just like magic he'll know it???

I have seen them, however, leading him down the side of the road (one of the girls on him bare back) and he seems fine with passing cars - so I'm hoping he'll be laid back enough to work calmly for me (make life easier) but then again if he is a hot head then it will only make when I'm trying to say about a legitimate trainer make more sense.

We shall see....

i_luv_wildfire · 11-09-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arabchic

Well it sounds as if you have your work cut out for ya, good luck!! Maybe they just need to learn a lesson the hard way, i just hope that they dont get hurt in the process.

And I hope the horse doesn't get hurt, either.

Abbie22057 · 11-09-2004, 01:56 PM

Oh good grief!! Some people really don't understand how big, powerful, and dangerous a horse can be if not properly trained or in the right hands!! They are asking for someone to end up in the hospital. I realize they did it out of ignorance, but who was the dingaling who sold them those horses in the first place? I would never sell a young horse to someone I didn't KNOW had enough experience to train it. I know, maybe they fudged to the seller, but come on!!! Somebody should've had enough sense and know-how to stop situations like this!

Carly · 11-09-2004, 03:22 PM

I know what you mean! this nenon green lady came to look at Cody...she told lies, and with the Help of Mary..we found her out.
She was a "horse collector" someone who has alot of money, and just keeps buying horses. She had 1 ACRE of land in which she had 15 horses on, with NO FOOD OR WATER,NO SHELTER and she had 2 2 yr old studs 2GETHER!!!
this i all find out when i paid a suprise visit!
needless to say i called the spca..and they were removed..
anyways..they were all green horses themselves!
I cant believe people sometimes! If i were you, i wou8ldnt offer to help them...but then i guess io would..but purely to make sure that the horse is okay during it all. no sympathy for them if teyre hurt..they were the stupid ones!

okay..ive said my peace!lol

Simon Says · 11-09-2004, 03:27 PM

OMG!!!!!! We are having the same problem right now, we have this couple who wants to buy to ex racers for there 2 daughters that know nothing about horses, they want to stay at our barn and we had to tell them NO, to danerous!!!! AHHHH I can't stand people like that!!!!!

naughtygirl · 11-09-2004, 03:51 PM

grrr!! y do people buy young horses for young kids!!! dsnt it jst make your mouth foam! do the parents think that the kid will grow in2 the horse or sumthing! i jst dnt understnd wot is going threw there heads wen they purcase these horses!!!

Rutabega Roo · 11-09-2004, 04:01 PM

UGH!!!!! I totally agree!When I was 10, this girl in my lesson my age got a 3 YEAR OLD!!!!!! WEHAD BARELY CANTERED AT ALL!!!!!! Anyways, my trainer made her ride 1 of the lesson ponies. When I got a horse, My mom, sister, dad, trainer, and I all made sure to find a nice, calm, EXPERIENCED horse.

11-09-2004, 12:28 PM	#1
AnnaBelle02 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,230 Images: 3	I'm green my money is green - lets spend it on something green! VENTING Honestly! What goes through some people's heads!!??? Ok I'm venting a bit but I know you guys will understand. Our neighbours have just rescently bought two horses. Well last night the mother called me up to know if I would be interested in helping them with one of the horses (the oldest of the two - one is 3 and the other is soon to be two). Ok so first off I'm thinking sure no prob but I want info. Well I knew the mother has taken a few riding lessons from conversations I've had with her in the past so I wanted to know how much experience her 14, 12 and 9 year old girls had under their belts. WELL it seems that the girls can walk, trot, canter and do small jumps - all this having been taught to them by a 13 year old friend just down the road!! Then as I said they bought these two young horses and the 3 year old they would like to ride only problem is - they can't figure out how to get him to lunge, learn rein commands, or wear a saddle - and they don't want to fall off him in the process of training so BINGO next thought - why don't we ask someone else to do it for us. I don't know but based on the way she talked to me, it seems like she just expects me to go over their pop up on him show her that he knows walk trot canter commands and can be controlled and everything is just peachy. IF she is expecting that they have to be more out to lunch than I thought! I'm sorry but it just ticks me off when people think that 1. they know enough to handle a youngster because they've had a few lessons and can control some comatose school horse, 2. expect training to take minimal amount of time and effort and still turn out some amazing bomb proof horse, 3. and the most obvious - buy GREEN horses for GREEN riders!! How is that safe!?!? Well needless to say I'm going to help them - but I hope I can drill it into their heads enough that they should send him to a proper trainer (I'm a masters student - I don't have time to be over there every day working with him and I have my own foal and mare that I want to spend my time with) and that there is no way I'm getting on to a horse without it having any proper background knowledge of basic ground commands first - Oh gosh I'm fuming, I should of said no, but perhaps when I start showing them things they need to do with him first they will realize how much commitment this takes and send him for training instead. Grrr ok, I think I've worked it out - I'm not going to be preachy or rude I'll do my best to show them what I can in 1 hour a week and then try to convince them to send him to a real trainer. But honestly how mnay times do we have to see this before people will figure it out!? Green + Green = Red __________________ I love riding my Standardbred!

11-09-2004, 12:43 PM	#4
AnnaBelle02 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,230 Images: 3	Well when I asked for info she told me - they have been on him bare back and only leading him because he isn't confident in what to do when there is no one right beside him (hense not being able to lunge) and he will take the bit "we just aren't sure how to teach him how to turn or stop! haha" ya haha indeed and you expect someone to just hop up there and snap just like magic he'll know it??? I have seen them, however, leading him down the side of the road (one of the girls on him bare back) and he seems fine with passing cars - so I'm hoping he'll be laid back enough to work calmly for me (make life easier) but then again if he is a hot head then it will only make when I'm trying to say about a legitimate trainer make more sense. We shall see.... __________________ I love riding my Standardbred!

11-09-2004, 03:22 PM	#7
Carly Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: British Columbia Posts: 7,137 Images: 649 Blog Entries: 5	I know what you mean! this nenon green lady came to look at Cody...she told lies, and with the Help of Mary..we found her out. She was a "horse collector" someone who has alot of money, and just keeps buying horses. She had 1 ACRE of land in which she had 15 horses on, with NO FOOD OR WATER,NO SHELTER and she had 2 2 yr old studs 2GETHER!!! this i all find out when i paid a suprise visit! needless to say i called the spca..and they were removed.. anyways..they were all green horses themselves! I cant believe people sometimes! If i were you, i wou8ldnt offer to help them...but then i guess io would..but purely to make sure that the horse is okay during it all. no sympathy for them if teyre hurt..they were the stupid ones! okay..ive said my peace!lol __________________ Okay I HAVE to say it.. its BELGIAN not BELGIUM.. its a horse, not a place or a chocolate! "I've been Goosed!"

11-09-2004, 03:27 PM	#8
Simon Says Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Covington, La Posts: 4,294 Images: 194	OMG!!!!!! We are having the same problem right now, we have this couple who wants to buy to ex racers for there 2 daughters that know nothing about horses, they want to stay at our barn and we had to tell them NO, to danerous!!!! AHHHH I can't stand people like that!!!!! __________________ "If your dog doesn't like someone, you probably shouldn't either" Chrissy & Stormy

11-09-2004, 03:51 PM	#9
naughtygirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Taranaki, New Zealand Posts: 4,785 Images: 754 Blog Entries: 21	grrr!! y do people buy young horses for young kids!!! dsnt it jst make your mouth foam! do the parents think that the kid will grow in2 the horse or sumthing! i jst dnt understnd wot is going threw there heads wen they purcase these horses!!! __________________ -Sly Preferido- "Love me, love my horse"

11-09-2004, 12:40 PM	#3
arabchic Full Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 273 Images: 4	Well it sounds as if you have your work cut out for ya, good luck!! Maybe they just need to learn a lesson the hard way, i just hope that they dont get hurt in the process.

11-09-2004, 01:56 PM	#6
Abbie22057 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GR, Michigan Posts: 1,252 Images: 2	Oh good grief!! Some people really don't understand how big, powerful, and dangerous a horse can be if not properly trained or in the right hands!! They are asking for someone to end up in the hospital. I realize they did it out of ignorance, but who was the dingaling who sold them those horses in the first place? I would never sell a young horse to someone I didn't KNOW had enough experience to train it. I know, maybe they fudged to the seller, but come on!!! Somebody should've had enough sense and know-how to stop situations like this!

11-09-2004, 04:01 PM	#10
Rutabega Roo Full Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minnesota- Carver Co. Posts: 87 Blog Entries: 1	UGH!!!!! I totally agree!When I was 10, this girl in my lesson my age got a 3 YEAR OLD!!!!!! WEHAD BARELY CANTERED AT ALL!!!!!! Anyways, my trainer made her ride 1 of the lesson ponies. When I got a horse, My mom, sister, dad, trainer, and I all made sure to find a nice, calm, EXPERIENCED horse. __________________ My horse is smarter than you. At least I think so. RUN LIKE THE WIND, RUDY ROO!!GO LHPC!!