[PollyWog]

You can't breed 2 black horses together and get a black foal all the time. I can almost garentee you'll get a chestnut baby!! If you want a black foal breed a black stallion to a chestnut mare and I can almost garentee you'll definately get a black foal.

[Smoke N Lace]

Originally Posted by PollyWog

You can't breed 2 black horses together and get a black foal all the time. I can almost garentee you'll get a chestnut baby!! If you want a black foal breed a black stallion to a chestnut mare and I can almost garentee you'll definately get a black foal.

Sorry, that's not right. Even if both black horses have a recessive sorrel gene also, they would only produce sorrel 1/4 of the time. If either black horse is double-gened for black, the odds for black go up even further. If both are double-gened for black, they will only produce black.

[PollyWog]

I didn't want to go into depth about it geesh.......

[horsesR4life]

Originally Posted by PollyWog

I didn't want to go into depth about it geesh.......

i didnt think that was in depth at all

[Bodi]

Well ... a little defensive aren't we. Yes you can breed two black horses and get a black foal everytime. It depends on if either parent is homozygous black or not. Secondly the two horses shown, the stallion is black, but the mare is not. She is a dark seal brown mare. You can see the brown in her muzzle and lightly in her flank. So in truth she is a bay mare. However if this mating were to occur you once again have a high chance of getting black because of the homozygous black status of the parents, the agouti depends on the status of the mare. So you may get a bay too. Either way, nice horses, and nice choices.

I know it doesn't include deceased horses, but if I had my choice I'd of bred Darla to Riverbend Monkoncarlaet. Wixom I'll always dream of breeding to Blackhome Colonel Lyn. She's a wide mare with a lot of depth to her. Both have clean heads. I like both of their toplines. He could possibly give the foal more length through the leg and neck. It wouldn't be a monster foal in size, but then I don't need monster draft horses either. I don't place value on height. I put more pride in conformation and a good all around built horse instead.

[haunani]

Originally Posted by Smoke N Lace

Sorry, that's not right. Even if both black horses have a recessive sorrel gene also, they would only produce sorrel 1/4 of the time. If either black horse is double-gened for black, the odds for black go up even further. If both are double-gened for black, they will only produce black.

If my brain isn't playing tricks on me in my exhaustion, if both dam and sire are black and one of them is EE, then the foal WILL be black, regardless of what the other passes on to it.

[haunani]

Just about any mare (whose personality and conformation are acceptable) to Guaranteed Gold.

[spotteddrafter1]

Originally Posted by haunani

Just about any mare (whose personality and conformation are acceptable) to Guaranteed Gold.

And, I second that! Isn't he a gorgeous horse???

But, really...I'd probably breed my mare (who is homozygous for the black gene and the tobiano gene) to a Friesian stud. Not sure who yet, but I've always loved Thor. Not like it will ever happen, though...she's had enough babies to last a lifetime.

[Arabians4ME]

Originally Posted by Smoke N Lace

Sorry, that's not right. Even if both black horses have a recessive sorrel gene also, they would only produce sorrel 1/4 of the time. If either black horse is double-gened for black, the odds for black go up even further. If both are double-gened for black, they will only produce black.

Just a side note to this that I always found interesting. I know this mare that was solid black (no markings) that was bred to a black stallion (not always the same one but it was always black) and the resulting foal 13 of the 13 times was a chestnut foal. She was a incredible mare and had incredible foals they just were all always solid chestnut.

[Smoke N Lace]

Originally Posted by haunani

If my brain isn't playing tricks on me in my exhaustion, if both dam and sire are black and one of them is EE, then the foal WILL be black, regardless of what the other passes on to it.

No, Haunani, you are absolutely right. The offspring would be black even if only one parent was homozygous black. I'm the one having the brain f***. Long day at work. When I posted, I was running through my mind about sorrel that carries the agouti gene and producing bay rather than black a lot of the time (and other things about the sorrel to black cross), but thanks for the correction.