I was wondering...

NaturalHorseman · 02-06-2004, 12:39 PM

I was wondering something about color. I have a rose gray mare and I was thinking of breeding her to a beautiful sorrel gelding. Does anyone know what in the world kind of color I might expect to get out of the two. You can see a pic of him here Flashy Playgun

Super_Trooper · 02-06-2004, 12:41 PM

Wow, he is beautiful! I have NO idea about the color you can expect.....Im interested to know too!

Pony Magic · 02-06-2004, 12:43 PM

I think the probability will be higher for sorrel/chestnut as it is the more dominant color. But it's really a matter of odds, one can't predict with certainity.

Cntrysass20 · 02-09-2004, 11:38 PM

Grey is dominant to ALL colors. I cant remember what the chances were for each color. I will find a site for you that will give you the actual % chance of each color, but I do know that greys are dominant. Also the color at birth depends on the base color of each parent as there are only 2 base colors and that is red and black. Since you have a rose grey I am assuming that she was a red at birth before graying out so since you are breeding to chestnut stud you should have a chestnut at birth that will go grey.

Blistering Winds · 02-11-2004, 04:05 AM

Arabians are more prone to the Gray gene than other breeds because the Gray gene is very prominant in their breed.

If you have a red roan of sorts, and you want to breed to that bay, which shows red in his coat, you'll end up probably with a red base, so a Chestnut, bay, sorrel, and roan are probably the chances you are looking at. Since you have a roan, the gray won't come from the roan since she has homozygous recessive for the non-gray.

Same with Bay. THey are Homozygous Recessive in the non-gray gene too.

SO, your gray chances are probably Zero. Unless your horse IS a gray, then you have a 50% chance of throwing a Gray since the Gray gene is dominant overall.

Here's a site that I reference often. There is another, and I can't remember it for the life of me.

http://community.webshots.com/s/imag...2qanUEl_fs.jpg

Catapultcomformation · 02-11-2004, 12:48 PM

I dont understand how a picture of a bay horse is helping you understand colors maybeyou made a mistake

NaturalHorseman · 02-12-2004, 10:16 AM

I found a gruella and a blue roan. I would like to keep the unusual color. I really don't care what color it is as long as it's healthy. Of course the color is just icing on the cake. I'll try to find them so that ya'll can see them...they are gorgeous!!

Super_Trooper · 02-12-2004, 10:19 AM

Nice!

NaturalHorseman · 02-12-2004, 01:21 PM

Here are some of the studs that I found. What do ya'll think?
Cutter Blakes Legacy
Elans Play N It Cool
PLENTY SASSY BUD
Skips Blue Twist
Kansas City Twister
Docs Bartender Jack
STEPPIN DOWNTOWN

EventingDayDream · 02-12-2004, 01:34 PM

ohh I lile the last one! Steppin downtown. Very pretty color!

02-06-2004, 12:39 PM	#1
NaturalHorseman Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TN Posts: 35	I was wondering... I was wondering something about color. I have a rose gray mare and I was thinking of breeding her to a beautiful sorrel gelding. Does anyone know what in the world kind of color I might expect to get out of the two. You can see a pic of him here Flashy Playgun

02-06-2004, 12:41 PM	#2
Super_Trooper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC Canada Posts: 9,472 Images: 77	Wow, he is beautiful! I have NO idea about the color you can expect.....Im interested to know too! __________________ True commitment begins when you reach the point of not knowing how you could possibly go on, and deciding to do it anyway! http://b1.lilypie.com/mCKWm7/.png

02-11-2004, 04:05 AM	#5
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,416 Images: 793 Blog Entries: 16	Arabians are more prone to the Gray gene than other breeds because the Gray gene is very prominant in their breed. If you have a red roan of sorts, and you want to breed to that bay, which shows red in his coat, you'll end up probably with a red base, so a Chestnut, bay, sorrel, and roan are probably the chances you are looking at. Since you have a roan, the gray won't come from the roan since she has homozygous recessive for the non-gray. Same with Bay. THey are Homozygous Recessive in the non-gray gene too. SO, your gray chances are probably Zero. Unless your horse IS a gray, then you have a 50% chance of throwing a Gray since the Gray gene is dominant overall. Here's a site that I reference often. There is another, and I can't remember it for the life of me. http://community.webshots.com/s/imag...2qanUEl_fs.jpg __________________ 20 lb club: New year Start: 175 Goal: 130 Current: 158 Total loss this year 17 lbs.

02-12-2004, 10:19 AM	#8
Super_Trooper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BC Canada Posts: 9,472 Images: 77	Nice! __________________ True commitment begins when you reach the point of not knowing how you could possibly go on, and deciding to do it anyway! http://b1.lilypie.com/mCKWm7/.png

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02-06-2004, 12:43 PM	#3
Pony Magic Full Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 129	I think the probability will be higher for sorrel/chestnut as it is the more dominant color. But it's really a matter of odds, one can't predict with certainity.

02-09-2004, 11:38 PM	#4
Cntrysass20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,108 Images: 20	Grey is dominant to ALL colors. I cant remember what the chances were for each color. I will find a site for you that will give you the actual % chance of each color, but I do know that greys are dominant. Also the color at birth depends on the base color of each parent as there are only 2 base colors and that is red and black. Since you have a rose grey I am assuming that she was a red at birth before graying out so since you are breeding to chestnut stud you should have a chestnut at birth that will go grey.

02-11-2004, 12:48 PM	#6
Catapultcomformation Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA alabama Posts: 663	I dont understand how a picture of a bay horse is helping you understand colors maybeyou made a mistake

02-12-2004, 10:16 AM	#7
NaturalHorseman Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TN Posts: 35	I found a gruella and a blue roan. I would like to keep the unusual color. I really don't care what color it is as long as it's healthy. Of course the color is just icing on the cake. I'll try to find them so that ya'll can see them...they are gorgeous!!

02-12-2004, 01:21 PM	#9
NaturalHorseman Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: TN Posts: 35	Here are some of the studs that I found. What do ya'll think? Cutter Blakes Legacy Elans Play N It Cool PLENTY SASSY BUD Skips Blue Twist Kansas City Twister Docs Bartender Jack STEPPIN DOWNTOWN

02-12-2004, 01:34 PM	#10
EventingDayDream Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,502 Images: 75	ohh I lile the last one! Steppin downtown. Very pretty color!