I HATE "Natural" Horsemanship!!!!

ParkedOut · 07-08-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beeks

Actually, I find an actual carrot stick, a very helpful tool when trying to train a horse. They sell them at the grocery store for .69 cents a pound.

What a deal! Mini's or regular?? LOL

Beeks · 07-08-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ParkedOut

What a deal! Mini's or regular?? LOL

Depends on whose eating....I mean who I'm training with them. If I am training me, the little ones. If I am training my horse, the big ones with the skin and the greenery still attached.

redhorseridge · 07-08-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zanerkin177

this is going to sound weird I'm sure but: what is the big difference between NH and regular training?

I suppose it all comes down to defining NH and "regular training". NH works with the horse, by working with their natural herd instinct. You don't need a special halter, or lead rope, or stick to do it.

There are so many approaches that could be classified as "regular training". But it used to be that force was the method used to train horses into submission to humans. In fact, the term "breaking a horse" came from breaking a horse spirit through intimidation and often times fear and pain. (As an example: many people in the 1500s considered pushing a horse's head under water the best approach to teach him to cross water. More current "traditional" trainers still rely on the "throw the saddle on his back and let him deal with it until his struggles cease". )

So one could say that the newer, so called NH methods, are using trust versus force. When I was growing up, using force was the way to get fast results. That's what I would call "traditional training". If a horse was afraid of getting a bath, you tied it up to a pole and sprayed it with water until it stood still -- or you twitched it or sedated it. A NH person would not do that.

Yep, it's getting serious again...it just irks me when someone says they hate NH and they clearly think it's all about halters, and DVDs, and lead ropes, and carrot sticks... when, in fact, it is not.

Zanerkin177 · 07-08-2009, 12:19 PM

how would forcing a horses head under water make him cross? wouldn't that make it worse? lol

Beeks · 07-08-2009, 12:28 PM

I find, trying to force your friends head underwater, works much better. The horses get totally into it.

PinkHooves · 07-08-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeks

I find, trying to force your friends head underwater, works much better. The horses get totally into it.

LOL what a great picture!

wakiya · 07-09-2009, 12:09 PM

Random: THey edited the word cocaine out of a kid rock song...

Zanerkin177 · 07-09-2009, 12:15 PM

yes....that is quite random, lol.....you'd think with today's society they wouldn't care

turn n burn311 · 07-09-2009, 12:21 PM

They edited cocaine? Was it a CD you bought at walmart? they censor everything lol

Saw kid rock live in April..very good show

Saph · 07-09-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeks

I find, trying to force your friends head underwater, works much better. The horses get totally into it.

LOVE this pic!

Would pushing a human's head under the water be Natural Humanship for a horse?

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Zanerkin177 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Army :D Posts: 1,293 Images: 7	yes....that is quite random, lol.....you'd think with today's society they wouldn't care __________________ A true leader has the confidence to stand alone, the courage to make tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others. He does not set out to be a leader, but becomes one by the equality of his actions and the integrity of his intent.

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