I do not believe this is a red roan...

Jess! · 10-12-2007, 05:44 PM

I just now looked at Ruby's papers and it says she's a RED roan.

In her classified add it states she is a BAY roan.

This does not look like a red roan to me. Are her papers wrong or do I have the wrong horse?

Don't red roans have sorrel manes and tails?

prettyqtrs · 10-12-2007, 05:47 PM

She looks like a bay roan.

Someone didn't know their colors.

And yes, red roans are a sorrel + roan...so they have a sorrel mane/tail/legs/head. Bay roan is a bay + roan...so they have black mane/tail/legs. And the brown/bay head.

Jess! · 10-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyqtrs

She looks like a bay roan.

Someone didn't know their colors.

And yes, red roans are a sorrel + roan...so they have a sorrel mane/tail/legs/head. Bay roan is a bay + roan...so they have black mane/tail/legs. And the brown/bay head.

That's what I thought. I didn't even notice the papers said red roan until I just looked at them for her AQHA number.

How would I go about getting THAT changed?! [color on the papers]

prettyqtrs · 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Contact AQHA...they will more than likely have you send photos of her. And, if you really want to back that up, you could coat color test her and send them the results from the test(s).

ETA: What color are her sire and dam? If at least one of them is black based, that will also help 'your case'...as it is genetically possible for her to be black based. But, i would think/hope they (AQHA) would know their colors enough that if you send them pictures they'll change it on her reg. certificate.

Toby&Arie · 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Strawberry roans have sorrel manes and tails. Bay roan and red roan is used interchangeably in casual conversation. That is as far as I know- I am not really acquainted with color technicalities.

idlewild · 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Yup, she's a bay roan if I ever saw one.

Someone was confused.

PeggySue · 10-12-2007, 05:50 PM

Prob just send in a color correction when you do your transfer... may make you DNA her to be sure it is the right horse but if the marking match I would say somebody messed up her color at birth

Sonador · 10-12-2007, 05:52 PM

Defenatly a NOT a red roan, thats all I know, litrally!

doublebarr · 10-12-2007, 06:11 PM

LOL, and not a speck of white on her to help you "match" her to her papers, LOL.

Don't fret Jess. WAY too many breeders don't know nearly as much as they want to think about color genetic and what you can and can't get with certian colored parents. Just call AQHA and they will walk you through what you need to do. They're really nice folks.

horseyfrk145 · 10-12-2007, 06:12 PM

def not red, i would just contact AQHA and if for whatever reason they need some help recognizing their colors, then they will require a test and then you're done

10-12-2007, 05:44 PM	#1
Jess! Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 8,822 Images: 187 Blog Entries: 14	I do not believe this is a red roan... I just now looked at Ruby's papers and it says she's a RED roan. In her classified add it states she is a BAY roan. This does not look like a red roan to me. Are her papers wrong or do I have the wrong horse? Don't red roans have sorrel manes and tails? __________________ (¯`·._¤ Jess!·._¤ ´¯) A Thousand Mile Journey Proud Marine Wife - 18 Weeks left in Iraq!

10-12-2007, 05:47 PM	#2
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,848	She looks like a bay roan. Someone didn't know their colors. And yes, red roans are a sorrel + roan...so they have a sorrel mane/tail/legs/head. Bay roan is a bay + roan...so they have black mane/tail/legs. And the brown/bay head. __________________ ~Meg~ Poco Pine King "Poco" - '91 Sorrel Overo Paint Gelding * MF Bold as Gold "BG" - '95 Palomino QH Mare * Star Bucks Bonanza "Star" - '00 Buckskin QH Mare *** Mainly Deville "Deville" - '04 Dun QH Mare

10-12-2007, 05:50 PM	#4
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,848	Contact AQHA...they will more than likely have you send photos of her. And, if you really want to back that up, you could coat color test her and send them the results from the test(s). ETA: What color are her sire and dam? If at least one of them is black based, that will also help 'your case'...as it is genetically possible for her to be black based. But, i would think/hope they (AQHA) would know their colors enough that if you send them pictures they'll change it on her reg. certificate. __________________ ~Meg~ Poco Pine King "Poco" - '91 Sorrel Overo Paint Gelding * MF Bold as Gold "BG" - '95 Palomino QH Mare * Star Bucks Bonanza "Star" - '00 Buckskin QH Mare *** Mainly Deville "Deville" - '04 Dun QH Mare

10-12-2007, 05:50 PM	#5
Toby&Arie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 480 Images: 3	Strawberry roans have sorrel manes and tails. Bay roan and red roan is used interchangeably in casual conversation. That is as far as I know- I am not really acquainted with color technicalities. __________________ "There are several good protections against temptation, but the surest is cowardice."

10-12-2007, 05:50 PM	#6
idlewild Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Luis Valley in Colorado Posts: 3,400 Images: 283 Blog Entries: 90	Yup, she's a bay roan if I ever saw one. Someone was confused. __________________ Yours ~ Emily Feliche + Idlewild = Serial Eventers

10-12-2007, 05:50 PM	#7
PeggySue Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dennison, Illinois Posts: 9,680 Images: 911 Blog Entries: 9	Prob just send in a color correction when you do your transfer... may make you DNA her to be sure it is the right horse but if the marking match I would say somebody messed up her color at birth __________________ My stalkers follow me EVERYWHERE

10-12-2007, 05:52 PM	#8
Sonador Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corcoran, Minnesota Posts: 343 Images: 26	Defenatly a NOT a red roan, thats all I know, litrally! __________________ ~There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse. ~Charity~

10-12-2007, 06:11 PM	#9
doublebarr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,608 Images: 365	LOL, and not a speck of white on her to help you "match" her to her papers, LOL. Don't fret Jess. WAY too many breeders don't know nearly as much as they want to think about color genetic and what you can and can't get with certian colored parents. Just call AQHA and they will walk you through what you need to do. They're really nice folks.

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