I do not believe this is a red roan...

Jess! · 10-12-2007, 06:44 PM

I just now looked at Ruby's papers and it says she's a RED roan.

In her classified add it states she is a BAY roan.

This does not look like a red roan to me. Are her papers wrong or do I have the wrong horse?

Don't red roans have sorrel manes and tails?

prettyqtrs · 10-12-2007, 06:47 PM

She looks like a bay roan.

Someone didn't know their colors.

And yes, red roans are a sorrel + roan...so they have a sorrel mane/tail/legs/head. Bay roan is a bay + roan...so they have black mane/tail/legs. And the brown/bay head.

Jess! · 10-12-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyqtrs

She looks like a bay roan.

Someone didn't know their colors.

And yes, red roans are a sorrel + roan...so they have a sorrel mane/tail/legs/head. Bay roan is a bay + roan...so they have black mane/tail/legs. And the brown/bay head.

That's what I thought. I didn't even notice the papers said red roan until I just looked at them for her AQHA number.

How would I go about getting THAT changed?! [color on the papers]

prettyqtrs · 10-12-2007, 06:50 PM

Contact AQHA...they will more than likely have you send photos of her. And, if you really want to back that up, you could coat color test her and send them the results from the test(s).

ETA: What color are her sire and dam? If at least one of them is black based, that will also help 'your case'...as it is genetically possible for her to be black based. But, i would think/hope they (AQHA) would know their colors enough that if you send them pictures they'll change it on her reg. certificate.

Toby&Arie · 10-12-2007, 06:50 PM

Strawberry roans have sorrel manes and tails. Bay roan and red roan is used interchangeably in casual conversation. That is as far as I know- I am not really acquainted with color technicalities.

idlewild · 10-12-2007, 06:50 PM

Yup, she's a bay roan if I ever saw one.

Someone was confused.

PeggySue · 10-12-2007, 06:50 PM

Prob just send in a color correction when you do your transfer... may make you DNA her to be sure it is the right horse but if the marking match I would say somebody messed up her color at birth

Sonador · 10-12-2007, 06:52 PM

Defenatly a NOT a red roan, thats all I know, litrally!

doublebarr · 10-12-2007, 07:11 PM

LOL, and not a speck of white on her to help you "match" her to her papers, LOL.

Don't fret Jess. WAY too many breeders don't know nearly as much as they want to think about color genetic and what you can and can't get with certian colored parents. Just call AQHA and they will walk you through what you need to do. They're really nice folks.

horseyfrk145 · 10-12-2007, 07:12 PM

def not red, i would just contact AQHA and if for whatever reason they need some help recognizing their colors, then they will require a test and then you're done

10-12-2007, 06:44 PM	#1
Jess! Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 11,229 Images: 75	I do not believe this is a red roan... I just now looked at Ruby's papers and it says she's a RED roan. In her classified add it states she is a BAY roan. This does not look like a red roan to me. Are her papers wrong or do I have the wrong horse? Don't red roans have sorrel manes and tails? __________________ (¯`·._¤ Jess!·._¤ ´¯) ♥ Haute Couture Arabians♥ Purebred and Half Arabian Endurance Horses

10-12-2007, 06:47 PM	#2
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,097	She looks like a bay roan. Someone didn't know their colors. And yes, red roans are a sorrel + roan...so they have a sorrel mane/tail/legs/head. Bay roan is a bay + roan...so they have black mane/tail/legs. And the brown/bay head. __________________ 16 Ranch My Horses: Poco ~ BG ~ Xena ~ Star ~ Deville My Dog: Belle RIP Glenn (County) *You will be greatly* missed and never forgotten.**

10-12-2007, 06:50 PM	#4
prettyqtrs Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,097	Contact AQHA...they will more than likely have you send photos of her. And, if you really want to back that up, you could coat color test her and send them the results from the test(s). ETA: What color are her sire and dam? If at least one of them is black based, that will also help 'your case'...as it is genetically possible for her to be black based. But, i would think/hope they (AQHA) would know their colors enough that if you send them pictures they'll change it on her reg. certificate. __________________ 16 Ranch My Horses: Poco ~ BG ~ Xena ~ Star ~ Deville My Dog: Belle RIP Glenn (County) *You will be greatly* missed and never forgotten.**

10-12-2007, 06:50 PM	#5
Toby&Arie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 482 Images: 3	Strawberry roans have sorrel manes and tails. Bay roan and red roan is used interchangeably in casual conversation. That is as far as I know- I am not really acquainted with color technicalities. __________________ "There are several good protections against temptation, but the surest is cowardice."

10-12-2007, 06:50 PM	#6
idlewild Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 6,421 Images: 423 Blog Entries: 167	Yup, she's a bay roan if I ever saw one. Someone was confused. __________________ Honorary Aussie, Oi! Feliche +Idlewild = Serial Eventers // Idlewild and I Love BODIE! are M&M This one time, at band camp....I will tell you, but it will cost ya. I was on HGS when we made 2 and 3 million posts, and takin a math test for 4

10-12-2007, 06:50 PM	#7
PeggySue Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dennison, Illinois Posts: 19,120 Images: 1437 Blog Entries: 15	Prob just send in a color correction when you do your transfer... may make you DNA her to be sure it is the right horse but if the marking match I would say somebody messed up her color at birth __________________ *SS Farm* *Total:* $$756.39 *Total Char : $2401.45* Has no dog in that fight, so please leave me out of it I have enough of my OWN problems Thank you

10-12-2007, 06:52 PM	#8
Sonador Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corcoran, Minnesota Posts: 343 Images: 26	Defenatly a NOT a red roan, thats all I know, litrally! __________________ ~There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse. ~Charity~

10-12-2007, 07:11 PM	#9
doublebarr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 9,938 Images: 744	LOL, and not a speck of white on her to help you "match" her to her papers, LOL. Don't fret Jess. WAY too many breeders don't know nearly as much as they want to think about color genetic and what you can and can't get with certian colored parents. Just call AQHA and they will walk you through what you need to do. They're really nice folks.

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