Hypp??

*BaRrEL_BaBE* · 01-01-2005, 08:09 PM

I'm looking at a mare but she's Impressive bred. It's 4 generations back. Her owner's haven't had her tested and she's in foal. Would it be a good idea to have her tested or, with it being so far back, is it not an issue?

Dawn · 01-01-2005, 08:12 PM

It is an issue. Without knowing the previous horses (to know if they were affected) it's even more of an issue. Is she a registered qh? Have you seen her papers? If she is, it will say if she's a potential H/H or N/H horse on them. If it doesn't say then whoever in her lines that was Impressive bred has already been tested as N/N and therefore she doesn't ahve to be tested as there is no chance of her having hypp.

Lopin' Leopard · 01-01-2005, 08:16 PM

I would get her tested! It passes though the generations so it dones't matter how far back it is. If she's N/H I personally wouldn't purchase her becuase she could still show symptoms. They can be controled but then it can become costly. It's caused by a lack of potassium in the system, kind of like how we get charlie horses. And if she is N/H they shouldn't be breeding her, she will almost guarenteed pass it to the foal.

*BaRrEL_BaBE* · 01-01-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawn

It is an issue. Without knowing the previous horses (to know if they were affected) it's even more of an issue. Is she a registered qh? Have you seen her papers? If she is, it will say if she's a potential H/H or N/H horse on them. If it doesn't say then whoever in her lines that was Impressive bred has already been tested as N/N and therefore she doesn't ahve to be tested as there is no chance of her having hypp.

I have not personally seen her papers; she's registered APHA. Would I be able to find that information on the site?

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Originally Posted by Lopin' Leopard

I would get her tested! It passes though the generations so it dones't matter how far back it is. If she's N/H I personally wouldn't purchase her becuase she could still show symptoms. They can be controled but then it can become costly. It's caused by a lack of potassium in the system, kind of like how we get charlie horses. And if she is N/H they shouldn't be breeding her, she will almost guarenteed pass it to the foal.

I would never buy an N/H horse.

HalterGirl_88 · 01-02-2005, 05:02 AM

What's the mares name that you're looking at and the sire and dams name. I can probably find out some info for ya.

SyntheticTrust · 01-02-2005, 05:08 AM

being that far back should be ok... but if your going to breed her.. get tested

Dawn · 01-02-2005, 05:48 AM

I'm not certain if they do APHA papers the same or not. Find out if the horse that could have passed it on to her has been tested as being N/N. If so, get an official vet record saying that that is true and write it into your contract that if she is found to be N/H or H/H that your money will be refunded. (It shouldn't be a problem. I know that that is standard procedure for non tested potential horses in this area.) Or you can get her tested. However if the potential carrier in her past has been tested as N/N, there is no reason to get her tested as it would be impossible for her to be N/H or H/H.

Dawn · 01-02-2005, 05:49 AM

It doesn't matter how far back it is because many people have no issues with breeding N/H or H/H horses. So it could be carried through the lines from now till eternity until those breedings stop.

CowGirlUp1833 · 01-02-2005, 06:40 AM

What is Hypp? And why worry if it is "Impressive" bred? Forgive me, I'm not familar with paints (it is paints right? lol) hardly at all...although I have heard people talking about this before...

Oh yeah, and what does it mean H/H, N/H??

Top Dun · 01-02-2005, 07:21 AM

http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/~lvmillon...ypp_facts.html

Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis Disease (HYPP) is a muscular disease that affects both horses and humans. It is caused by a hereditary genetic defect that disrupts a protein called a sodium ion channel, a tiny gateway in the membrane of muscle cells. The genetic defect disrupts the channel's normal opening and closing, such that uncontrolled sodium influxes occur. These influxes in turn change the voltage current of muscle cells, causing uncontrolled muscle twitching or profound muscle weakness. High levels of potassium in the blood usually are present when the disruptions in the ion channel occur.

Impressive is the ONLY known Link the the disease ONLY his offspring have shown up with the disease at this time.

HH means the horse carries Two dominant forms of the gene that creates the disease.
N/H menas the horse carries ONE dominante form of the gene that creates the disease.
BOTH horses CAN have symptoms of the disease including mucsular tremmors or seizures.

It Can happen in ANY breed that allows crossbreeding to Quarter horses, so Appaloosas with Impressive QH bloodlines,
Paints with Impresive QH bloodlines
POA's ETc
You get the drift, ANY horse what was even part QH and Carries Impressive bloodlines MAY be suceptible to the disease IF at least one of the parents was a carrier.

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Originally Posted by CowGirlUp1833

What is Hypp? And why worry if it is "Impressive" bred? Forgive me, I'm not familar with paints (it is paints right? lol) hardly at all...although I have heard people talking about this before...

Oh yeah, and what does it mean H/H, N/H??

01-01-2005, 08:09 PM	#1
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CowGirlUp1833 Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Holland Lake Shore, West Michigan Posts: 16,022 Images: 384 Blog Entries: 33	What is Hypp? And why worry if it is "Impressive" bred? Forgive me, I'm not familar with paints (it is paints right? lol) hardly at all...although I have heard people talking about this before... Oh yeah, and what does it mean H/H, N/H?? __________________ www.Equine-Endeavors.com "Horses are like potato chips - You can't have just one" ~Unknown Yay! I'm down to just 3 right now!! Those meetings must be helping!

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01-01-2005, 08:12 PM	#2
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,113 Images: 1328	It is an issue. Without knowing the previous horses (to know if they were affected) it's even more of an issue. Is she a registered qh? Have you seen her papers? If she is, it will say if she's a potential H/H or N/H horse on them. If it doesn't say then whoever in her lines that was Impressive bred has already been tested as N/N and therefore she doesn't ahve to be tested as there is no chance of her having hypp.

01-01-2005, 08:16 PM	#3
Lopin' Leopard Full Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 179 Images: 6	I would get her tested! It passes though the generations so it dones't matter how far back it is. If she's N/H I personally wouldn't purchase her becuase she could still show symptoms. They can be controled but then it can become costly. It's caused by a lack of potassium in the system, kind of like how we get charlie horses. And if she is N/H they shouldn't be breeding her, she will almost guarenteed pass it to the foal.

01-02-2005, 05:02 AM	#5
HalterGirl_88 Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,611	What's the mares name that you're looking at and the sire and dams name. I can probably find out some info for ya.

01-02-2005, 05:08 AM	#6
SyntheticTrust Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,528	being that far back should be ok... but if your going to breed her.. get tested

01-02-2005, 05:48 AM	#7
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,113 Images: 1328	I'm not certain if they do APHA papers the same or not. Find out if the horse that could have passed it on to her has been tested as being N/N. If so, get an official vet record saying that that is true and write it into your contract that if she is found to be N/H or H/H that your money will be refunded. (It shouldn't be a problem. I know that that is standard procedure for non tested potential horses in this area.) Or you can get her tested. However if the potential carrier in her past has been tested as N/N, there is no reason to get her tested as it would be impossible for her to be N/H or H/H.

01-02-2005, 05:49 AM	#8
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,113 Images: 1328	It doesn't matter how far back it is because many people have no issues with breeding N/H or H/H horses. So it could be carried through the lines from now till eternity until those breedings stop.