[TBfarmgirl]

this is WAY to early for collection and jumping. you're not helping your horse a bit. slow down!

[Jess!]

10 rides and you're schooling over jumps? The horse has TEN rides under her, not nearly enough experience for jumps. You are doing a big disservice to her by starting her over jumps when she herself is still green.

My horse Kandee has about 13 rides on her, and I wouldn't DREAM of putting her over ANY kind of jump.

I wouldn't even start over jumps until about 6-7 months of good, solid flat work.

I agree, you're going a bit too fast with her. Granted, I ride my green horses hard, but I don't expect them to be jumping, collecting, or anything during my rides. I just expect correct behavior, and the very basics.

[PollyWog]

IT may seem fast. But she enjoys it. She's willing, and she picks things up fast. She's a horse you kinda gotta keep busy. Plus we're just playing with jumps. I say schooling when all i'm teaching her is to atleast go over the jump. She's collecting good. I've got her shifting her shoulders around and working on moving hind quarters.

Plus if you think about it she doesn't have a bit that's stressing her out through her mouth. It's all light pressure on her face.

[PollyWog]

Lavender is for sale by the way. She's listed at 4500$'s. She's not my horse. She's a customers. The whole way Lavender's been willing and enjoying everything.

[Nevada_Silk]

Do you train using Parelli methods?

[PollyWog]

No. I'm not a Parelli person, or a Anderson, Reis, or Cox, or Lyons. Their all my own methods. I use SIMILAR methods. As I like to put it, "I don't like to play games with my horses to get them to do what I ask them to do. It's me the horse and whatever it is I'm trying to teach them."

My boss is a HUGE Parelli fanatic.

[Nevada_Silk]

Originally Posted by PollyWog

No. I'm not a Parelli person, or a Anderson, Reis, or Cox, or Lyons. Their all my own methods. I use SIMILAR methods. As I like to put it, "I don't like to play games with my horses to get them to do what I ask them to do. It's me the horse and whatever it is I'm trying to teach them."

My boss is a HUGE Parelli fanatic.

Just wondering since you seem to have the Parelli halter and lead.

Putting multiple methods together seems to be the best mix, IMO.

Do slow down a bit on your horse. She's a pretty girl and I can see she is willing but it's not worth it to skip the basics just because jumping is more fun. Get a solid foundation on her and you (or her owners) will be much happier in the end.

[PollyWog]

I know. I'm working a lot on just basic stuff. i jump her occasionally. I don't jump her everytime we ride. I also don't collect her everytime I ride her.

Yes it is a Parelli halter and lead etc. It's my boss's. I ride in it because it's the only thing she wants me riding and teaching to everybody on the ranch.

[canadianlover]

Originally Posted by PollyWog

IT may seem fast. But she enjoys it. She's willing, and she picks things up fast.

She is enjoying it now but when she gets sour from to much to fast she wont be having so much fun, im not sure if I understood correctly but you said she was getting tired of ringwork and then PROCEED the same day to go jump her? I dont understand?

With the little amount of training this girl has- when she is still listening but letting you know enough is enough then you STOP. We need to be the boss but we also need to listen to our horses!

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by PollyWog

I am currently working at a ranch in Florence, Texas called the Lazer Ray Stables. These are videos of Lazer Lavender (2002 14.1 hands grey 1/2 Connemara 1/2 American Sport Pony filly). Let me know what you think!! I'd like *positive critiques*.


This is Lavender getting lounged while wearing the saddle for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMarBhkvF9o

I see a horse trying very hard to please you I see a horse getting confused with your signals. You twirl the end of the lead rope to get her to go, which is great, but then many times when she DOES go, you keep twirling. Twirl to get her to go, but STOP twirling so she understands that's what you wanted. To keep twirling makes no sense to her.

This is me installing a steering wheel on Lavender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5fSVVp157Y

Same general concept as above - confusing information being fed to her. I saw several times when you had her head bent around to your knee, looking like you wanted her to circle that way, but then you'd tap on her other hip I saw several times when you had her bending one way, as if to do the same thing, but when she just stood there, you gave up and tried again the other way. That is VERY counterproductive to her. When you ask for something, you must continue asking for it until she at least tries a right response, and then immediately stop asking. You motivate her to do something by asking, but the real training comes in when you STOP asking - that is called negative reinforcement - removal of the "aggravation" that caused her action. Every time you tap tap tap on her hind end to get her to move it over, but then give up and move to the other side, you are teaching her to ignore your tapping there. Every time you keep twirling the end of the leadrope when she moved out on the circle like you asked, you are teaching her to ignore your twirling.

Keep that in mind - once you start asking for something, you must be prepared to continue asking for it, increasing the motivation, until she tries something in the right direction. At that point you MUST stop asking, or she will never make the connection between the 2 things.

She's a nice little horse who looks very willing to please and tries very hard - give her the chance

[quote]

Originally Posted by PollyWog

Finished Product for her first ride!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znlaMt7JA0Y

Don't have your "reins" so long that you can't make smooth adjustments to get contact with her head. Several times you got a small contact, but your arm was so far out to your side you couldn't take more contact to further motivate her, so you had to drop the contact and re-initiate it. This goes back to the above - you are removing the motivation before she has done when you asked, intentionally or not, teaching her to ignore it. ALWAYS be prepared to finish what you start without having to stop in the middle.

Keep your "reins" shorter, and practice holding the end of one and smoothing sliding your other hand up it. That sliding should eventually end up being her first clue you're asking for something, so it needs to be done every time. Stretch your arm long in front of you, hand slid up the rein, so you are prepared *and able* to put as much pressure on the rein as you need to motivate her to do as you're intending. Does that make sense?