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Videos may work better Arab hunter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAc5TeWbVxU Arab English horse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj-50oGBPnc...
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    Videos may work better

    Arab hunter:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAc5TeWbVxU

    Arab English horse:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj-50oGBPnc
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    Quote Originally Posted by windblown View Post
    Videos may work better

    Arab hunter:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAc5TeWbVxU

    Arab English horse:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj-50oGBPnc
    the first one is huntseat, the second one is saddleseat.

    and in the second class,, those arabs look a lot like saddlebreds or NSH's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncEars View Post
    the first one is huntseat, the second one is saddleseat.

    and in the second class,, those arabs look a lot like saddlebreds or NSH's!
    She actually said in one of her earlier posts that Saddleseat was English/Country/Park (for her), and that if she wanted an English horse, she meant a saddleseat horse for English pleasure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryiah View Post
    She actually said in one of her earlier posts that Saddleseat was English/Country/Park (for her), and that if she wanted an English horse, she meant a saddleseat horse for English pleasure
    oh (too short)
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKatt View Post
    Ok, so then is there a distinct difference in the saddles that each of these uses? Say Saddleseat, vs Hunt Seat vs Hunt Seat Jumping (as defined by Lover), vs Drassage, vs English Pleasure riding? Or do they all use the same basic, English style saddle?

    I always pictured Hunt Seat as Jumping. My experience with it involved going through the different gaits (walk, trot, canter), some small jumps (it was my first time jumping), and hanging the stirrups over the saddle so I couldn't use them. It was the only time I have ever ridden like that and I LOVED it.

    I thought English was more just general riding for pleasure, maybe some show type stuff going through the gaits and all...like dressage without the dressage part. haha

    And Dressage is well, dressage. Riding with an English saddle in a ring doing fancy-schmancy awesome side stepping and such. It always looked fun to me.

    I didn't know that there was hunt and hunt jumping. I am definitely a fan of jumping. I have also never heard of Saddleseat that I can recall. What is the distinction for this? Similar to my impression of English perhaps? I pictured all of the above as using "dressage horses," more sleek, clean lined horses with nice conformation and leg wraps and wearing a nice jacket with riding pants. Western was always in my mind AQH and big western saddle, jeans, and trail rides.

    Man, if only I had had access to the internet as a kid. I read all of the horse books and magazines I could get my hand on, but you miss a lot of this technical stuff that way.

    Is it relatively easy to train a horse who has been riding Western to wear an English saddle and do jumps and Hunt Seat type work? Say I find a horse to lease who is Western only, can I just get a fitting Engl. saddle and put it on and go, or are they different enough for the horse to require some training? The horse I learned to ride on did both, and most of the horses I rode after that did only Western (minus my one wonderful hunt seat experience).

    Thanks for all of the helpful comments guys! One of these days I will have to call my Mom up and have her dig out old pics of "my" horse. She was an old **** (literally haha) and I loved her. Maybe when I go visit for Christmas I can find them.

    Edit: apparently I can't say that word lol It isn't even a curse work or anything. Can I say "toot?" Or Flatulate? lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Aryiah View Post
    She actually said in one of her earlier posts that Saddleseat was English/Country/Park (for her), and that if she wanted an English horse, she meant a saddleseat horse for English pleasure
    Is the she you are referring to me? lol



    Ok so from all of everyone's fantastic info:

    Sadleseat is the second video with "Gaited" horses high stepping etc for shows.
    Hunt Jumping is jumping.
    Dressage is dressage.
    Hunt Seat is "English" pleasure riding.
    And English encompasses all of the above.
    BUT everyone has their own slightly different interpretations of each.

    correct?

    Btw: If I get an English horse, I want to do jumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKatt View Post
    Is the she you are referring to me? lol



    Ok so from all of everyone's fantastic info:

    Sadleseat is the second video with "Gaited" horses high stepping etc for shows.
    Hunt Jumping is jumping.
    Dressage is dressage.
    Hunt Seat is "English" pleasure riding.
    And English encompasses all of the above.
    BUT everyone has their own slightly different interpretations of each.

    correct?

    Btw: If I get an English horse, I want to do jumping.
    pretty much
    but there are different kinds of jumping, so make sure you know what your buying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncEars View Post
    pretty much
    but there are different kinds of jumping, so make sure you know what your buying!

    SO much to learn! Ok, so what are the different types of jumping? I know cross country, and show jumping, but are there other types then? Is there really a big difference in the training and tack and style and such? Could a horse trained to jump one way just start jumping the other way if you took them onto a course, or would it involve some training in the new type of jumping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKatt View Post
    Is the she you are referring to me? lol



    Ok so from all of everyone's fantastic info:

    Sadleseat is the second video with "Gaited" horses high stepping etc for shows.
    Hunt Jumping is jumping.
    Dressage is dressage.
    Hunt Seat is "English" pleasure riding.
    And English encompasses all of the above.
    BUT everyone has their own slightly different interpretations of each.

    correct?

    Btw: If I get an English horse, I want to do jumping.
    Haha, this is who I was referring to:

    Quote Originally Posted by windblown View Post
    LOL. For me, it's simple. Hunt seat is hunt, and saddleseat is English/Country/Park. Dressage is dressage, sport horse is sport horse, etc. English is used as the term for saddleseat in Arabs, though I really don't know why, lol. It's too general, but hey, whatever, haha. I just know when I say I want an English horse, I mean a saddleseat horse FOR English Pleasure
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKatt View Post
    SO much to learn! Ok, so what are the different types of jumping? I know cross country, and show jumping, but are there other types then? Is there really a big difference in the training and tack and style and such? Could a horse trained to jump one way just start jumping the other way if you took them onto a course, or would it involve some training in the new type of jumping?
    There's Hunter Over Fences, there's foxhunting, hunt trials, Steeplechase, I guess you could say, haha.

    I would say the styles could be different. Like the Hunter Over Fences horse would be nicely groomed, braided, etc. but the Eventer horse would be nicely groomed, but not braided. Tack's appeared to be different between the two (like the noseband they're using for the bridle, etc.)

    You could take a horse that's Hunter Over Fences, if he jumps keenly enough, out to the cross country course if they like being out in the open and won't spook from the fences.

    More educated people can explain better than I can, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKatt View Post
    SO much to learn! Ok, so what are the different types of jumping? I know cross country, and show jumping, but are there other types then? Is there really a big difference in the training and tack and style and such? Could a horse trained to jump one way just start jumping the other way if you took them onto a course, or would it involve some training in the new type of jumping?
    im really not the jumping-queen, but here's what i [think] I know..

    I guess hunter over fences is like. about control, and looking "good", and having correct form, or whatever.

    and show jumping is more of 'dont knock a jump over and go fast' sort of thing.

    then cross country and steeple chasing., well i dont know much about that.

    xD anyone help me out here?
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