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Old 05-09-2008, 01:26 AM   #41
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Chester said it best.

I trust that most times my horses will do what they are trained to do.

I think it increcibly silly to sit underneath a horse. What if the horse had a fly on it's belly and went to kick it off? Probablly the horse had no intention of sending you the to hospital, just wanted the fly off and you got in the way.

We have 3 sheep. They are housed in a stall right next to Willy. My horses see the sheep every day for months now. We lead the sheep down the ailse when the horses are tied in the ailse, they get close. The horses are quiet around the sheep.

Yesterday, Jess had one of the lambs outside. I was leading Willy to the round pen. The lamb jumped straight up in the air, trying to leap out of Jessie's arms. Willy thought the world was ending. Had I been 'trusting' him, he would have been at the very least loose. Had I been sitting underneath him?
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:00 AM   #42
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one of my previous horses was dead quite but only if i were 100% i could trust him ( took about at least 1 year)

i could go behind him, go under his belly even for shade whatever. No tack

but the filly i have now i wouldn't trust so much
but i have gone under her neck and behind her that is all.
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:48 AM   #43
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Accidents happen even with the most trusted horse. Once while walking with my girl, she stepped on my toe and just stood there on it looking around as if nothing was wrong. The agonizing pain felt like all the bones in my toes were crushed. A half an hour later, I realized they were not and a few days later the pain was gone.

Another time as i walked away from her, she kicked at a fly and landed a good hard kick on the back of my bare thigh. It sounded like a baseball player smacking a ball straight out of the park. By the way, it felt like I had been hit with a baseball bat too!

Another cold morning she didn't care to be groomed and she grunted and bucked up her rear to kick me into next year. Thankfully i got out of the way unscathed. Another time she did the same when i was walking around her in her stall while she was eating breakfast and did not want the intrusion. When it is really windy or a cold morning, she will run around bucking like a wild banjy. If i get in the way i would be toast. And once I did rush to get out of her way, just to hit the back of my hand on a corner. Blood burst out of the back of my hand like a spraying geyser! My blood continuously shot across the field. No hospital for me. I patched it up myself.

Then again on another occasion, a treeless saddle and i rolled under her belly and i landed on the ground. She came back to me consolingly and licked me. That time I landed on my rump and my tail bone had a dull throbbing pain for nearly a week.

So horses are very dangerous. You can feel close to them but should always think preventively when around them and look out for every possible danger.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:05 AM   #44
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I trust my girl, but i do know one day there is a great chance she is going to hurt me unintentionally. By either bucking me off, or running into me in a freak accident scenario.
So far she has avoided running me over when spooked or excited, she is very concious of where i am. But one day... it will probably happen.
They are horses afterall.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:38 AM   #45
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Sometimes I don't think it's really an issue of trusting your horse as much as trusting yourself. At least that's my issue.

I love my horse and would give him the keys to my car if he could drive. But he'd have a curfew.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:12 AM   #46
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I love and trust my horses enough to treat them as horses and not as an extension of myself. While I am quite at ease around them, and I have a great deal of confidence in all our interactions.... I never am so foolish to forget that they are 1100 pound prey animals that could end my life in a second. I doubt that would ever happen out of malice or with intention, but it could happen nonetheless, in the blink of an eye, from something as silly and benign as being startled. Horses are and will always be one of my greatest passions... But I would never allow that love for them cloud my good judgment. Dedication, confidence, and trust are one thing. Being naive or putting yourself in harms way because of a romanticized notion is the stuff that made Walter Farley a wonderful story teller.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:21 AM   #47
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3 Dubya Dee's hit the nail on the head. Again.

Horses are different animals at different times. A horse that is working alone with you in the RP is a different animal than the same horse who's in the corral with the rest of the herd. One on one, I trust them all - as EquineJessie said, I trust them to be horses. In the herd, I know what the pecking order is, who is likely to make who move, and when, and I pay attention to that as I move among them. Make no mistake. Any horse can and will run yer butt over to get away from that alpha mare, killer rabbit or horse eating plastic bag.

Humans, with all their advanced capacities, are still capable of irrational and panicked behavior. Horses - even the brightest - have brains the size of walnuts, and aren't self-aware. They are hard-wired for survival. All the training and bonding in the world will never change all of that.

Trust them completely, in all circumstances, at your peril...
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:24 AM   #48
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Like others have said, I trust my horse to be a horse. Jasper is dead quiet, he'll go under, over or through anything you ask him. Never kicked, never bucked. He has reared, and struck out once, but I understand why he did it, which is why I still trust him. I would never sit under his belly- but I trust him enough to take me over solid XC fences, and to ride around the pasture in only a halter, on a windy day with trucks going by. I know him really well, and I can trust how he will react to different situations.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:48 PM   #49
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Pity this thread didn't come with a poll on how old the poster was. Seems to me that the most trust is placed by the younger generation.

I trust my horses to be horses. They all have minds of their own. I probably trust the training I have done on them more than I trust them.
So because I'm only 20, I'm just young and nieve is that it? Well I'm sorry but I have to say you are mistaken there. You think I haven't had my share of getting hurt because I'm not that old? Ha! Well heres the list.
A total of broken ribs, 8 times.
2 shot knees
My back is shot
My nose is crooked because it has been broken twice
Lost a week of my life in a hospital and still don't know what happened.
Been flipped on top of and had a broken leg, three busted ribs, and I screwed up my hip.(Which is still messed up)
Broke my collar bone 4 times. (The right one once the left one three times)
Broke my arm.(My right one)
Broke my wrist twice.(Also the right one.)
Broke the one bone on the top of my foot once.(My left one)
And got bucked off by a pony and double barreled on the way down, I woke up on my friends couch two days later.
All of that is from horses. Thats not counting the cattle acidients. So yeah I DO know what horses can do to me. I work with mustangs and wild horses on a daily bases. I know what to expect out of horses and thats why I trust them. I never know what to expect out of people and i get hurt by them everyday. I have no reason to trust anyone at all. My mare gives me a million reasons to trust her everyday. She cares about me more than anyone or anything else, and you can take that to the bank.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:59 PM   #50
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Wow, people have hurt you more that amazing list of horse injuries? How is it possible?
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