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    Horses shoulder "popping out?"

    My mare never ceases to challenge and confuse me...She has had issues for a long time (a year or 2) with picking up her right lead. She'll do it, but it takes 3 or 4 tries sometimes more than that some days to get it. She'll pick it up on the lunge line perfectly. I had a chiropractor out about a month ago and her right hip was out and a rib was out...after getting those issues fixed she has been moving so much better. She actually uses her hind end now. BUT she still has issues picking up her right lead with me on her. I thought it may have been something I was doing, and maybe it still is. My friend watched me ride yesterday and while we were trotting she told me it looked like her right shoulder was popping out ever few strides. I put her on the lunge and I could see it too. It literally looks like it moves out of place. She doesn't look "lame" at all, and it's very hard to see unless you're looking for it. And a few nights before that when I rode her she was lame. I wasn't sure what was hurting her but it was definitely more prominent on the right. I can feel her leg do a double tack in a sense every once in awhile while were trotting too...so I can somewhat feel it when it happens every so often. At the previous barn I was at my farrier knew some chiropractic stuff and I talked to him about her right lead problem and he checked her out and told me her right shoulder had popped out. I thought he was crazy cause I didn't think that was possible. So it seems as if this is something that keeps happening, even when it's put back in place. Which he adjusted her twice for me (without my permission). He's not a certified chiropractor, but again he caught that her shoulder was out.

    So basically I'm asking, is this possible to happen and what can I do about it since it keeps happening? Can it be corrected by any exercises or do I yet again have to have a chiropractor out? It's majorly confusing me and I don't know what to do anymore. It's one problem after another with her. When one is fixed another one appears. Never fails.



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    Morning bump!
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    Yes it is possible. My mares shoulder pops out now and then. Started after an incident on a ride where we were going down a steep hill and she ended up sliding spread eagle to keep from falling. It happened a couple of years ago but I still have to readjust it periodically. Often enough that my equine massage therapist showed me how to do it myself. Iv'e also done this for a number of other horses I work on when I trim hooves. It's actually not an uncommon problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asfaloth View Post
    Yes it is possible. My mares shoulder pops out now and then. Started after an incident on a ride where we were going down a steep hill and she ended up sliding spread eagle to keep from falling. It happened a couple of years ago but I still have to readjust it periodically. Often enough that my equine massage therapist showed me how to do it myself. Iv'e also done this for a number of other horses I work on when I trim hooves. It's actually not an uncommon problem.
    Alright good, I'm not crazy then... She's an ex race horse so maybe it's from a previous injury from racing. I'll have a chiropractor back out again and see if she can show me how to do it since it seems to happen fairly frequently. Does it hurt them when it pops out?
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    It all depends on how out it is. My mare didn't show any indication of an injury until about two weeks after the event. It is certainly not comfortable. Horses don't respond to pain quite the same way we do some they will tend to hide of ignore pain. Typical prey behavior;never exhibit a weakness. Generally I will notice a loss of flexibility or a shortened stride on that side. With trimming it often presents when I ask the horse to put a front foot up on my hoof stand and they pull back or refuse.
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    It's totally possible. I just had a sports rehab lady (a friend) out for some of our other horses at the track and I was showing her one that won't put weight on even though she EATS now. She just looked at me, looked at the horses shoulder and went uh because this is dislocated. Now I don't brush or handle this horse often so when she actually pointed it out it was like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ding ding ding, this is why you've been running so bad. Her dislocated shoulder was at least 5" higher and 4" more protruding then the proper one, once you saw it it was like it had a huge sign with exclamation points going !!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!! My friend said it was lucky that she hadn't been running very well/hard because it was set up in such a way that a hard run race or wrong step could've broken it. She said that many of her nerves had been pinched off which is why she was never truely lame but had a funny way of going. This horse is so much more ALIVE now that it's been fixed, it's amazing to see.

    So yes, do get a chiro to look at it.
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    Okay thank you! Of course it choose to pop out not even a month after the chiro was out. lol. Just my luck. Hopefully she can give me some pointers to help keep it in place or to fix it myself when it does come out, cause I can't keep affording to call her out every month.
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    Oh and also another quick question- Would my weight be effecting her shoulder at all, or causing her pain? I'm not heavy (5'9" and around 130 pounds) and she is 16hh and fairly stocky other than her thin TB legs....But I just find it strange that she will canter perfectly, nice and relaxed and on the right lead on the lunge. But with me on her she has such a hard time picking it up. Also her shoulder doesn't seem to be noticeably out much on the lunge. When I do get her to canter on while I'm on her it's tough to slow her down, whereas on the lunge she's nice and slow. Just trying to figure this out because I'm not sure when I'm going to be able to have the chiro back out, it may be a few weeks. So I want to figure out if me riding her is helping her or hurting her.
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    How does that work? Wouldn't a horses shoulder only be able to be out of place if there was significant muscle damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murdoch View Post
    How does that work? Wouldn't a horses shoulder only be able to be out of place if there was significant muscle damage?
    That's what I was wondering. That's why it was concerning me, especially since it has happened a few times.
    A little update- I lunged her today and now she's visibly lame at the trot. She was limping pretty bad. So it must be bothering her more now. I'm going to get a chiro out as soon as possible.
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