[Equine_Harmony]

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

Do you feel chemical euthanasia is inhumane? I know several people who feel that is inhumane.

I know a whole GROUP of people who feel riding is inhumane.

I know people who feel that any decision made by US is inhumane.


Did you know, training is basically "BRAINWASHING" the horse? We give them no other options really, except ours......so that is "inhumane" as well.


AVMA and AAEP have stated the bolt is humane when used properly. I have personally seen how and why it is humane when properly applied.

So until someone gets something else that is better out, this is the most humane thing we have.

And I'd rather my horse be bolted than starve to death if I cannot afford to take care of him and no one can buy him or even TAKE him off my hands.

Most people that are pro slaughter have astated that they would not have their horse slaughtered, however you would, so I really feel you feel that this is humane. I have always pondered on why pro slaughter's would say My horse would never go to the slaugter house, or my horses are too good for the slaughter house this statement was made by one member. It is rare for me to see this so I hold respect for you standing on firm ground. To me the slaughter is not humane. Euthanaisa is.

[Equine_Harmony]

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

I think the problem is that instead of ONE thread on the same subject, everyone seems to have to have their own, when their comments/letters/etc would fit perfectly in the already being discussed and open and ACTIVE thread.

So basically, instead of running 2-8 arguments, just try to keep it to one. That is one issue many of us have with the ten million threads that get started about the same time.

I agree w/ you. perhaps since this is a topic that most do need to vent and so on, I see why not, and it does not take space on the important threads like rescueing and such, horse slaughter is not going to end, at least any time soon perhaps never...We just need a thread starter, I can't be the one, everyone knows I am fickle and neurotic

[Lou3]

Originally Posted by PreppyxCowgirl

watch the videos, they are not fake and it is NOT unreliable

They are totally fake and absolutely unreliable. They are fabricated, either more than 20 years old or COMPLETELY set up by the animal rights groups.
If you are going to decide something is cruel at least decide on the basis of fact - dont be unintelligent enough to take anything any animal rights activist tells you as true. IT WONT BE.

[Lou3]

Originally Posted by pocahontas

Blistering Winds
Why were you so harsh on PreppyxCowgirl?
She is 14yrs old. I think for that age that was a very well put together paper.

AT 14 yrs old she is more than old enough to be able to put aside emotion and actually figure out what is fact and what is fiction. In that paper she had not, so we are pointing out the parts that are fiction.

[Lou3]

Originally Posted by Equine_Harmony

I agree w/ you. perhaps since this is a topic that most do need to vent and so on, I see why not, and it does not take space on the important threads like rescueing and such, horse slaughter is not going to end, at least any time soon perhaps never...We just need a thread starter, I can't be the one, everyone knows I am fickle and neurotic

Personally I would much prefer if threads on slaughter were banned outright like they were a couple of years ago. This is not an activist forum and we dont need these kind of threads at all. IMO they detract from what is otherwise a very nice and friendly forum. There are plenty of other forums to vent about this kind of thing.

[i_luv_moth]

Originally Posted by arabgirl15

I'm sorry. This is going to seem rude, but I have to let this out. Or I'll go insane.

Don't read if you don't want.

If you really want to stop horse slaughter, don't get the internet. Save up some money and rescue a horse. Out bid killer buyers. They don't buy for a lot. Then you can say you've saved a horse from slaughted. Honestly, how are some little words on a forum going to help stop slaughter? They are not. Hah. I kind of find these threads amusing. It so "Oh My God. Horse slaughter is the worst thing since sliced bread. It should be stopped. I mean think of the poor horses. Ohhh my goooodddd. Ahh! Horses are my friend don't kill a friend. OMG! That horse was hit with a bolt! Ahh" and all "Horse slaughter is completely humane." Now you see how I look at these threads.

Horses are PROBABLY (not saying they are) being SLAUGHTERED RIGHT NOW! OH MY GOD! Go save them if you really want to do something about it. I know for a fact that I will, be quite MAD if they BAN SLAUGHTER. Which won't happen. I have my reasons, which are none of your business at all. None. At All.

Now. I'm. Done.

Great post

[pocahontas]

Originally Posted by Lou3

They are totally fake and absolutely unreliable. They are fabricated, either more than 20 years old or COMPLETELY set up by the animal rights groups.
If you are going to decide something is cruel at least decide on the basis of fact - dont be unintelligent enough to take anything any animal rights activist tells you as true. IT WONT BE.

The color GREY Lou3
Not everything is ALWAYS, COMPLETELY, NEVER, IT WON'T BE, etc.

Originally Posted by Lou3

AT 14 yrs old she is more than old enough to be able to put aside emotion and actually figure out what is fact and what is fiction. In that paper she had not, so we are pointing out the parts that are fiction.

14yrs old, put aside emotions, huh?
How about a pat on the back for her efforts?
Heck, adults on here and in the real world don't put aside emotions

[Lou3]

Originally Posted by pocahontas

The color GREY Lou3
Not everything is ALWAYS, COMPLETELY, NEVER, IT WON'T BE, etc.

When it comes to animal rights groups there is no colour grey. Only lies, deceit, exaggeration and fabrication. Not to mention the less lawful side of their activities. Animal WELFARE groups are a good thing, animal RIGHTS groups are a nusiance at best and downright dangerous at worst.

14yrs old, put aside emotions, huh?
How about a pat on the back for her efforts?
Heck, adults on here and in the real world don't put aside emotions

If you are writing a paper with the intent of submitting it to someone other than your friends then you HAVE to put aside emotion and you absolutely have to have every single one of your facts absolutely right. Otherwise people who DO know what they're talking about will not take you seriously, they will just (rightly) laugh and then ignore you altogether. Believe it or not we are actually trying to help here, if you are so embroiled in the emotions of the issue that you cannot recognise constructive criticism then thats your problem not mine.

[Equine_Harmony]

Originally Posted by Lou3

Personally I would much prefer if threads on slaughter were banned outright like they were a couple of years ago. This is not an activist forum and we dont need these kind of threads at all. IMO they detract from what is otherwise a very nice and friendly forum. There are plenty of other forums to vent about this kind of thing.

I agree with you, this topic should not be here, it gets people upset, I for one and it also pulls at me. I'm if anything an animal welfare activist and I do help at my local animal shelter, i work for free part time working w/ horses, So I do act. It is in my HO that this animal is not slaughter in a humane way, I know how you feel and I am not fighting your belief, another thing Scotland perhaps they work different with horses that are to be slaughtered. On the videos? I do feeel they are old, I feel they are showing realism, I would like to see recent footage by a person under cover that has credibility, this way no-one can add that it is not real...

[pocahontas]

Originally Posted by Equine_Harmony

On the videos? I do feeel they are old, I feel they are showing realism, I would like to see recent footage by a person under cover that has credibility, this way no-one can add that it is not real...

These may be more recent.
http://www.kaufmanzoning.net/horsemeat/