[Crazy_TB]

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

OH boy, a whole "OFF TOPIC" I can attack.....

Tell me, can we shut down welfare? Can we shut down Child Protective Services? Govt doesn't really benefit from thses programs...only the people involve benefit....

Lets shut the Animal Pounds since they drain our govts as well and do not have any return....and do kill animals as well..

Lets shut down small businesses. the local soda shop down town. Doesn't bring in that much to the Govt...only to cause rotten teeth and a few icecream shakes here and there......so it isn't worth keeping


Watch what you use to back yourself up....you may hang yourself in the end.

Um, not off topic....? It was right on topic. Ooooh look, what would this be if it was attacking my off topic? It wouldn't be on topic.
Child Protection. Humane. Government benefits, because there are no outcries. No one is attacking the government because of it. Happy people does help the government because there it causes no rebellion.
Animal pounds protect people, and protect animals. Those animals live on the street, and are put up for adoption if they are safe. They are euthanized (which you are right, killed) in a humane way, oh and look here! Not eaten afterwards! (Much nonetheless, in a different country)
What was the soda shop thing about? That was random and didn't help your argument. First of all I've never seen a soda shop in my entire STATE, and second of all I was talking about horse slaughter. You know the thing that kills the animals you all claim to love. The thing that is not morally or ethically right, and offers nothing to our governement. There is no reason for it. I don't know how to get this through to you, but there are reasons for the things you put up. They make people happy, or prevent already abandoned animals from suffering any longer (Suffering, abandoned horses get sent to ASPCA or other organizations, not slaughter, and are euthanized if beyond help). I'm taking it that you're comparing these things and saying they all have the same effect. If horse slaughter makes any of you happy, that's beyond disturbing and just plain sadistic. (If you don't mean it that way, please, please tell me.)
I'm saying that I'm against horse slaughter because it serves NO PURPOSE, other than giving people money when they no longer want their horse so it can be eaten. I'm not against euthanization if a horse needs it, but is it necessary for someone to eat the poor thing afterwards?

What about cattle, sheep, pig, goat, etc slaughter? Do you support that? It is just "KILLING" animals mind you.

Is this a personal question? No, I don't. I do have leather tack, but all that put together is one cow. I think with all the burgers everyone else eats I'm allowed one cow. I'm a vegetarian.
But then again I like horses a lot more than all those other animals put together. If it was otherwise, I would be on a sheep forum....or a cow forum.

Originally Posted by ChaseroftheCans

Slaughter, though I think a different word should be used, is needed. It may not be as humane as we all dream, but they are trying to keep it painless. With out slaughter, we'll be overrun with unwanted horses. What will we do with them?

I think slaughter is right on target. Using another word would be portraying it in a different light, when killing horses to eat them is the dictionary definition of slaughter.

[Stormy'smom]

[/quote]I think slaughter is right on target. Using another word would be portraying it in a different light, when killing horses to eat them is the dictionary definition of slaughter.[/quote]

I'm not sure where you got your dictionary, but I just looked in mine and saw nothing about "when killing horses to eat them" under the word slaughter.

I pulled this off of the Merriam-Webster online Dictionary as it was easier to just copy and paste, but I don't see where it says anything about horses.
Main Entry: 1slaugh·ter
Pronunciation: 'slo-t&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse slAtra to slaughter; akin to Old English sleaht slaughter, slEan to slay -- more at SLAY
1 : the act of killing; specifically : the butchering of livestock for market
2 : killing of great numbers of human beings (as in battle or a massacre) : CARNAGE

Main Entry: 2slaughter
Function: transitive verb
1 : to kill (animals) for food : BUTCHER
2 a : to kill in a bloody or violent manner : SLAY b : to kill in large numbers : MASSACRE
3 : to discredit or demolish completely

Main Entry: 1mas·sa·cre
Pronunciation: 'ma-si-k&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French
1 : the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty
2 : a cruel or wanton murder
3 : a wholesale slaughter of animals
4 : an act of complete destruction <the author's massacre of traditional federalist presuppositions -- R. G. McCloskey>

Main Entry: 2massacre
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): mas·sa·cred; mas·sa·cring /-k(&-)ri[ng]/
1 : to kill by massacre : SLAUGHTER
2 : MANGLE 2 <words were misspelled and syntax massacred -- Bice Clemow>
- mas·sa·crer /-k&r-&r, -kr&r/ noun

Main Entry: slay
Pronunciation: 'slA
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): slew /'slü/; also esp in sense 2 slayed; slain /'slAn/; slay·ing
Etymology: Middle English slen, from Old English slEan to strike, slay; akin to Old High German slahan to strike, Middle Irish slachta stricken
transitive senses
1 : to kill violently, wantonly, or in great numbers; broadly : to strike down : KILL
2 : to delight or amuse immensely <slayed the audience>
intransitive senses : KILL, MURDER
synonym see KILL
- slay·er noun

I could go on but I would be here all night! It all comes down to...
Slaughter means to kill, murder, etc. and that is what most people think about when they hear the word slaughter.

[arabgirl15]

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I'm not sure where you got your dictionary, but I just looked in mine and saw nothing about "when killing horses to eat them" under the word slaughter.

I pulled this off of the Merriam-Webster online Dictionary as it was easier to just copy and paste, but I don't see where it says anything about horses.
Main Entry: 1slaugh·ter
Pronunciation: 'slo-t&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse slAtra to slaughter; akin to Old English sleaht slaughter, slEan to slay -- more at SLAY
1 : the act of killing; specifically : the butchering of livestock for market
2 : killing of great numbers of human beings (as in battle or a massacre) : CARNAGE

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live·stock (līv'stŏk')
n. Domestic animals, such as cattle or horses, raised for home use or for profit, especially on a farm.

http://www.answers.com/livestock

[Stormy'smom]

[/quote] live·stock (līv'stŏk')
n. Domestic animals, such as cattle or horses, raised for home use or for profit, especially on a farm.

http://www.answers.com/livestock[/quote]

How many people actually raise horses for slaughter for profit? I think that they are indeed "livestock", but were made livestock for the purpose of helping to make mans work on the farm easier. Until the tractor, car, etc.
I looked farther on that website you posted, farther down on that page is this:
The noun livestock has one meaning:
Meaning #1: not used technically; any animals kept for use or profit
Synonyms: stock, farm animal

Main Entry: tech·ni·cal
Pronunciation: 'tek-ni-k&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Greek technikos of art, skillful, from technE art, craft, skill; akin to Greek tektOn builder, carpenter, Latin texere to weave, Sanskrit taksati he fashions
1 a : having special and usually practical knowledge especially of a mechanical or scientific subject <a technical consultant> b : marked by or characteristic of specialization <technical language>
2 a : of or relating to a particular subject b : of or relating to a practical subject organized on scientific principles <a technical school> c : TECHNOLOGICAL 1
3 a : based on or marked by a strict or legal interpretation b : LEGAL 6
4 : of or relating to technique
5 : of, relating to, or produced by ordinary commercial processes without being subjected to special purification <technical sulfuric acid>
6 : relating to or caused by the functioning of the market as a discrete mechanism not influenced by macroeconomic factors <technical rally> <technical analysis>
- tech·ni·cal·ly /-k(&-)lE/ adverb



http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/livestock

Main Entry: live·stock
Pronunciation: 'lIv-"stäk
Function: noun
: animals kept or raised for use or pleasure; especially : farm animals kept for use and profit