[Blistering Winds]

Practice makes perfect....LMAO

[i_luv_moth]

Well done to us! LOL!

We have survived this thread without too many disagreements!

[Crazy_TB]

All of you who are pro-slaughter should say nothing unless you would allow your own horse to be sold to a slaughter house once it is no longer of use to you. I'd rather have a horse euthanized than know someone was eating it somewhere.
Let's put it this way. The income from this industry does very little for our government. We have two main slaughterhouses, and the horsemeat is not sold in the U.S. It's exported. Our government does not rely on this industry, and I don't think we need something that doesn't serve much purpose other than killing horses.

Originally Posted by norrevangs

It seems to me that the problem doesn't lie with slaughter but with the way it is done. I sent my horse to the meat factory a few years ago because he was so crippled with navicular. I put him in the trailer and brought him there myself, I booked the time so that there was no waiting around, he was lead away to stable, and shot, I don't know if it was a captive bolt or a gun as I didn't watch, but I made my dad check that he was dead before we left. That way I know he couldn't have suffered. The whole thing took less than 10 minutes. Yes he was weighed and yes they paid me by the pound. There was none of this hoisting up by the leg business or any of the rest of that horrible stuff. This is normal in an Irish abbatoir perhaps a compromise is needed in the US?

I don't mean to make this sound rude (I really don't), but I couldn't sell my horse after he died. Especially not when I'd know someone somewhere was eating him.

[Super Step]

Originally Posted by Crazy_TB

All of you who are pro-slaughter should say nothing unless you would allow your own horse to be sold to a slaughter house once it is no longer of use to you.

I have no issues with slaughter and do not sell my older horses. Other peoples discard are not my problem. My only obligation is to my horses. I do not own the worlds horses.
If I should say nothing because I chose to care for my horses and not abandon them, then I would say that those who are against slaughter and do not have rescues in their front yard need to say nothing.
We have a few members here who actually go out and help, who follow their convictions with actions, not words.
I will not condem slaughter until I see a working alternative.

[kellidahorsegirl]

Originally Posted by Super Step

I have no issues with slaughter and do not sell my older horses. Other peoples discard are not my problem. My only obligation is to my horses. I do not own the worlds horses.
If I should say nothing because I chose to care for my horses and not abandon them, then I would say that those who are against slaughter and do not have rescues in their front yard need to say nothing.
We have a few members here who actually go out and help, who follow their convictions with actions, not words.
I will not condem slaughter until I see a working alternative.

Agreed 100%!

[kellidahorsegirl]

SuperStep, where do I fall into that description? I am pro slaughter, but I have 2 rescued OTTBs in my backyard. What a conundrum! I'm kinda being a smart alec here......but I guess my rear is covered on each side huh?

[Super Step]

Originally Posted by kellidahorsegir

SuperStep, where do I fall into that description? I am pro slaughter, but I have 2 rescued OTTBs in my backyard. What a conundrum! I'm kinda being a smart alec here......but I guess my rear is covered on each side huh?

Speak it as you see it.
Having two OTTB's in your back yard is putting actions to your convictions. That is always an impressive combination.

[Feliche]

Plus, they are the CLOSEST animals to us. Both Anatomy and Psychological. Which is why they are the most widely used dissection animal in schools.

I believe you...but this is interesting...what about the monkeys/apes? Are pigs really closer to us than them?

Okay...as for the real issue here...I'm completely torn on this descision. I cannot say I like slaughter...it does seem like something I'd never want to put my/any horse through. But I agree with people on the other side as well. This all is rather grey to me.

I agree though. We need to STOP BREEDING so many horses if we aren't going to keep them and love them. I agree with home breeding if and ONLY if you don't plan to sell the foal. I think slaugher is bad and should be stopped, but only can be stop if we stop feeding it. (so to speak).

This is a loong thread!! at first it was very wicked...but it seems like everyone has kind of chilled out now. Man oh man...have we ever heard all these exact things before It's good to make a new one for the newer members I suppose...

Just wondering...does anyone else think it's time for the thread to go bye-bye...these last posts have sounded kind of conclusive. But if not, that's cool too. Well...I've had my little say

Ta

[Blistering Winds]

Originally Posted by Crazy_TB

All of you who are pro-slaughter should say nothing unless you would allow your own horse to be sold to a slaughter house once it is no longer of use to you. I'd rather have a horse euthanized than know someone was eating it somewhere.
Let's put it this way. The income from this industry does very little for our government. We have two main slaughterhouses, and the horsemeat is not sold in the U.S. It's exported. Our government does not rely on this industry, and I don't think we need something that doesn't serve much purpose other than killing horses.


I don't mean to make this sound rude (I really don't), but I couldn't sell my horse after he died. Especially not when I'd know someone somewhere was eating him.

I encourage you to read all my past posts on what will happen with my horse when he passes...natural or unnatural....

Our government does not rely on this industry, and I don't think we need something that doesn't serve much purpose other than killing horses.

OH boy, a whole "OFF TOPIC" I can attack.....

Tell me, can we shut down welfare? Can we shut down Child Protective Services? Govt doesn't really benefit from thses programs...only the people involve benefit....

Lets shut the Animal Pounds since they drain our govts as well and do not have any return....and do kill animals as well..

Lets shut down small businesses. the local soda shop down town. Doesn't bring in that much to the Govt...only to cause rotten teeth and a few icecream shakes here and there......so it isn't worth keeping

What about cattle, sheep, pig, goat, etc slaughter? Do you support that? It is just "KILLING" animals mind you.

Watch what you use to back yourself up....you may hang yourself in the end.

[ChaseroftheCans]

Originally Posted by PreppyxCowgirl

We do not eat pets. Eating an animal you can love seems to bother

people. Horses are animals that have been domesticated, accompany man, and are

given a name. They are not animals that are raised for human consumption. People in

US have a love affair with their horses. Horses are pets, and nobody wants to think of

a pet as being used for anything other than pleasure.

My horses are not pets. Not that I don't love/care for my horses, I do not consider them pets. Pets are animals I allow in my house, to sleep in my bed, to sit around and cost money with out bringing any in. My horses are my horses. They are livestock to me, not pets. As long as I own the animal, I could call anything a pet (from lions to tigers to crocodiles to deer).

Slaughter, though I think a different word should be used, is needed. It may not be as humane as we all dream, but they are trying to keep it painless. With out slaughter, we'll be overrun with unwanted horses. What will we do with them?

I would like to compare this issue to dog shelters. No kill dog shelters have dogs in little 10 x 10 cages their entire lives. They go crazy (I saw all this on a show called 'shelter dogs' last week, very interesting) in there like that. Unwanted animals cannot just be sitting around in cages or roaming around. It costs so much, and not just money-wise.

I think there should be stricter laws for breeding most animals like dogs and horses. A license or permit of some type to breed an animal, for example. But I do not think slaughter should be ended.

When I was 14, I was against it too. But I wasn't educated on anything to do with slaughter. I just knew horses were killed with a nail, lifted by a chain and basically skinned. That would upset anybody. But when you actually learn the facts and how it affects us, it's totally different.

Some of your facts were false. If you are indeed sending this letter somewhere, make sure your facts are true and not just what you THINK is true. Good luck.