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Old 02-29-2008, 08:25 PM   #31
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My comment was for the anti-slaughter folks as really there is little difference and if you think about it. I don't understand how one can scream no slaughter to one animal yet eat, wear and utilize another. How is one more valuable than another? Think about WHY slaughter exists and what you contribute to it and why it won't go away.
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:59 PM   #32
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My comment was for the anti-slaughter folks as really there is little difference and if you think about it. I don't understand how one can scream no slaughter to one animal yet eat, wear and utilize another. How is one more valuable than another? Think about WHY slaughter exists and what you contribute to it and why it won't go away.
Does that mean that you wanna eat your dogs and cats too? They're animals also. They are are protected under a law that says they can't be slaughtered, why cant horses be too?
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:29 PM   #33
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Does that mean that you wanna eat your dogs and cats too? They're animals also. They are are protected under a law that says they can't be slaughtered, why cant horses be too?
Why is it neccessary for any of them to be protected from being eaten?

Asian culture is much older than ours, and yet they eat all three of those meats... Who ever said anything in this thread about wanting to eat horse meat? Did I miss that one? I only saw it acknowledged as a meat, which it is, whether some like it or not.

That doesn't mean that I go searching for those particular meats to eat, but, who decides what it is wrong and right to eat? Not me, for sure...

What in the world does this have to do with the original topic? The OP asked for some photos, not a slaughter debate! I happen to be right in the middle of writing a paper on this for my vet tech program in college, a paper which happens to be pro... but I am most certainly not going into depth in this particular thread, because it is not appropriate.

Maybe I only added to the problem by even responding to the above questions, and if so, I apologize. If you have pics, please post them as I did. I am confident that the OP will educate herself on the politics without excessive help from the rest of us.

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Old 03-01-2008, 04:27 AM   #34
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...*Ahem*...horses are raised for meat in Africa and Asia. Thank you.

And cattle are also used for riding. I went to high school with a girl who rode her cow at rodeo's all the time.

I also breed goats as pets, and my goats are house broken and come inside all the time...but they're also eaten.

Heck, I had a duck that was trained to walk on a leash. Best duck I've ever eaten in my entire life, too.

Does this make horses any different?
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Old 03-01-2008, 05:40 AM   #35
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Horses are classified as LIVESTOCK (h: animals kept or raised for use or pleasure</I> ; especially : farm animals kept for use and profit) hence they are/were considered NOT a pet( a domesticated animal kept for pleasure rather than utility). AS to why I disagree with the new law. When you can have a horse at any house/barn in the city, as dogs and cats are allowed, and pay a fee to register them with the city then is when thy should be able to start to say if you can sell them for human consumption.

I am not anti slaughter I am pro conditions and regulation on slaughter bound horses. now that they go to mexico we cant control anything. And after a few reports I would rather it be legal. I raise my own beef, I name them and care for them daily, I feel much better kowing they had a good life and werent treated as the ones that were recently in the news. My cow now comes when called and I know every itchy spot but none the less they are livestock and have a purpose. Does that make me evil/bad? Its no different than any of you who eat meat from a super. Except I know where it came from and I guarantee they had an awesome life.

Back to the post I think a cause and effect part of the report might open someones eyes on what really needs to be regulated/controlled. Ifwe start limits and dont supply the source for unwanted horses it will help a lot faster than just shutting a plant down. Selection of who is to be bred would be scrutinized greatly if limits on the amout of foals allowed per breeder/farm/owner would be implemented. Or if they had to pay a fee for having a non spayed/gelded horse/pony. Money/fees speaks wonders for backyard breeders.
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Oh please...the OP looked to me like she was looking for VERIFIED INFORMATION, not a slaughter debate....

There hasn't been a slaughter thread for a very long time that hasn't turned into a debate, which is fine, I enjoy a nice debate, but there's been name-calling on both sides a lot lately.
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I raise my own beef, I name them and care for them daily, I feel much better kowing they had a good life and werent treated as the ones that were recently in the news. My cow now comes when called and I know every itchy spot but none the less they are livestock and have a purpose. Does that make me evil/bad? Its no different than any of you who eat meat from a super. Except I know where it came from and I guarantee they had an awesome life.
...My dad used to do the same thing for the very same reason. :]
We'd be doing it now if my mother would let us. I'd definently rather know what I'm eating, though.
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I used the Save Da Horses captions, cause they know what is happening at the pictures. If you want you can add the website www.savedahorses.com to the sources....DON'T GO to the website though they have really graphic pictures everywhere.

And most of the pictures were of auctions, where MOST of the horses end up slaughter-bound.

And the horses lying down probably are exhausted due to the lack of water and food
o ****! i went to that site and i almost threw up...
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Ahem! We don't live in Asia, Africa or any of those other countries. We live in America.

If those other countries want to eat those types of animals, we're not trying to stop them. We're just trying to stop them from eating OUR horses, dogs and cats. Let them eat their own, and leave ours alone!
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o ****! i went to that site and i almost threw up...

Umm....OK??

I told you there were graphic pictures on there
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