Horse opens mouth to any pressure on mouth.

SammyDoodle · 08-12-2005, 01:05 PM

If he is not in pain and his bit fits - then I would go with a flash - it worked wonders for my horse who used to open or chomp to evade

Oscar · 08-12-2005, 06:36 PM

What breed is he? Does your bit have a "NutCracker" action?

apples · 01-29-2006, 07:21 PM

what is teeth floting?

3WishesDun · 01-30-2006, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by apples

what is teeth floting?

Equine Dentistry. Having your horses teeth filed down to remove sharp edges, hooks, etc. Essential for proper chewing, bit comfort, health......

Bertie77 · 10-31-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gummiponys

Try a flash, it might help a lot because he sounds like hes resisting the bit.

I HATE those flash nosebands. I think they are WAY overused as an aid. They treat the symptom but not the cause. And I think they are unfair to the horse if the rider happens to have heavy hands or if the bit is irritating him in some way. He has no way to escape the pain.

kmdstar · 10-31-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertie77

I HATE those flash nosebands. I think they are WAY overused as an aid. They treat the symptom but not the cause. And I think they are unfair to the horse if the rider happens to have heavy hands or if the bit is irritating him in some way. He has no way to escape the pain.

Agreed! But this thread is pretty old

Bertie77 · 11-01-2009, 07:33 AM

Yeah, I know this thread is old, but I have been wanting to get that off my chest for some time. It really bothers me a lot and I see some of the nose bands so tight.

Jenje! · 11-01-2009, 07:44 AM

Here and I was so excited to see April posting.

LRHenneman · 11-01-2009, 12:57 PM

Or--just get him out of the snaffle. Horses with low palates sometimes have difficulty with the snaffle even in the best of hands. Cranking their mouths shut does keep them from evading the bit, but if he's in pain, I'd expect more fireworks from this.

Evaluate the bit. Evaluate him without the bit and find something that works for him and you. He might be ready for something else.

I was at a clinic once and saw a huge difference in the horse when the snaffle was taken out of its mouth and a hackamore put on. No more elevated head and gaping mouth. Not saying the hack is a cure for everythng, but it's a place to start.

IIIBarsV · 11-02-2009, 12:40 PM

A hackamore is a good place to start.

I would also try a mouthpiece with a dogbone (three-piece mouth) to disperse the pressure a bit more and prevent that nutcracker action, or one of those Myler comfort snaffles (mullen mouth, center roller). 3-ring elevators aren't exactly known for being a nice bit on a horse's mouth. Too much gag action, bar action, can absolutely cause a horse to open their mouth to escape it.

I see no need for a flash, figure 8, drop noseband... [ever].... normal hunter cavesson works just as well... and you're not supposed to crank the horse's mouth shut anyways- it should be tight enough to discourage gaping or evading the bit, but loose enough that you can get a couple fingers in there. If that doesn't work, you've either got a bit problem, or a rider hand problem... or one really determined horse [rare and unlikely].

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IIIBarsV Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Eastern Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,376 Images: 27	A hackamore is a good place to start. I would also try a mouthpiece with a dogbone (three-piece mouth) to disperse the pressure a bit more and prevent that nutcracker action, or one of those Myler comfort snaffles (mullen mouth, center roller). 3-ring elevators aren't exactly known for being a nice bit on a horse's mouth. Too much gag action, bar action, can absolutely cause a horse to open their mouth to escape it. I see no need for a flash, figure 8, drop noseband... [ever].... normal hunter cavesson works just as well... and you're not supposed to crank the horse's mouth shut anyways- it should be tight enough to discourage gaping or evading the bit, but loose enough that you can get a couple fingers in there. If that doesn't work, you've either got a bit problem, or a rider hand problem... or one really determined horse [rare and unlikely]. __________________ Three Bars The Fifth Jags Fleeting Rocket Wish I'd Get Lucky Chipped In Stone Zip Code Bay B Suns Eternal Flame

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SammyDoodle Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,284 Images: 68 Blog Entries: 1	If he is not in pain and his bit fits - then I would go with a flash - it worked wonders for my horse who used to open or chomp to evade

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Bertie77 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3	Yeah, I know this thread is old, but I have been wanting to get that off my chest for some time. It really bothers me a lot and I see some of the nose bands so tight.

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LRHenneman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 460 Images: 7	Or--just get him out of the snaffle. Horses with low palates sometimes have difficulty with the snaffle even in the best of hands. Cranking their mouths shut does keep them from evading the bit, but if he's in pain, I'd expect more fireworks from this. Evaluate the bit. Evaluate him without the bit and find something that works for him and you. He might be ready for something else. I was at a clinic once and saw a huge difference in the horse when the snaffle was taken out of its mouth and a hackamore put on. No more elevated head and gaping mouth. Not saying the hack is a cure for everythng, but it's a place to start.