Horse hit by truck and may be suffering. What do I do????

MyBabyTex · 03-10-2006, 11:29 PM

Where in Ontario are you from??

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stina3246 · 03-11-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamngold

The other boarders said they wanted to ride it, cause they think that she is sore cause she needs to work to get her tendons and everything stretched out. I tried stretching out her legs and putting Absobine Juniour on them and it just made her worse. It's not just like a pulled muscle, its permenant and forever.

First of all I'm glad you called ASPCA because they will be able to at least go and check and make sure this horse is OK. It's good that you care....
BUT....
If she is in SO much pain WHY would anyone want to ride her!! Is it possible that the girl does not want any one to ride her because she needs this time to heal? Is it possible that this girl feels SO bad and does not come to see the horse (but makes sure it is cared for) because it is painful to her? Did she SEE the accident, was she riding the mare? How did it happen?
If I were the owner and I found out that someone had come in and put liniment on my horse who was already in pain and made it WORSE...oh my gosh I can't tell you what I'd do to you! It is obvious that you don't know exactly what is wrong with this horse if you did something to it that you had no right to do and caused her MORE pain. Do you realise that if this girl finds out you did this then she could tell the authorities that she was getting the proper treatment per whatever vet and you caused farther injury to the horse!
Now that you've called the authorities....stay out of it as much as you can to avoid you getting into TONS of trouble!

robsandcreek · 03-11-2006, 02:55 PM

Well I would defiantly call or email the ASPCA but, about the horse that got hit I would just put it down if the vet says that it is pain I would just put it down.

We're gonna rock this pony right into this horse

kodiskorner · 03-14-2006, 08:31 AM

Wow. Lots to read about this issue.

I won't go into detail on this, but I will say:
It is okay that you called in an investigator. Most 'neglect' cases reported are due to owner uneducation. Now that you have talked with the BM, go ahead and step back. Let the investigators handle it. We have had neglect cases in Tx hindered when good samaritans feed the starving horses or do other things to try and take it into their own hands. This is what the investigator is trained to handle. That person will talk to the involved parties and get the whole story. If there IS a case of neglect (and yes, chronic pain can be an issue here) the investigator will handle it. I wish I could go into more detail of a case here in Tx that involved something of that nature, and the horse did have to be put down, but as an investigator myself I am not allowed to discuss details.
I am thankful for your concern regarding this horse - and whatever the outcome, I am sure that the horse thanks you as well.

Don't worry, I am sure that everything will all come out ok in the end.
cat

dreamngold · 03-15-2006, 09:56 PM

Thank you for that kodiskorner.
Stina- well i put the absorbine on the horse because my gelding got tied up once and it helpe his tendons and muscles relax, and I stretched her legs in a way thay I was taught by the vet for stiff horses. She was worse for a couple steps and then went back to her old stiffness. She didn't stay worse.
As for how this happened to her. The BO/BM told me that a pack of "wild dogs", not sure what that is, like stray dogs or like coyotes, but anyway. He said that these "wild dogs" chased the horses and spooked them. The horses got out of the pasture, just wire fencing that is hooked up to be electric but never turned on. This mare got really spooked and ran onto the busy road that the farm is next to and got hit by a truck. Not sure how big the truck was ro anything, just said truck. The same thing caused his pony to get out and get "lost" in the corn and eat itself half to death, she had a severe case of founder from it and was gone for about 5 days. All the other horses stayed around, but were quite spooked.

dreamngold · 03-15-2006, 10:00 PM

I am from southern Ontario, well Chatham to be exact. It is one hour from London and Windsor, Windsor is right next to Detroit.
Also, I have stepped back from the whole case. But I did ask the investigators to let me know how everything goes. They told me they can tell me only so much, but that they would let me know as much as they could. They said they will be going out there this week, so I hope to hear from them soon.

stina3246 · 03-16-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamngold

I am from southern Ontario, well Chatham to be exact. It is one hour from London and Windsor, Windsor is right next to Detroit.
Also, I have stepped back from the whole case. But I did ask the investigators to let me know how everything goes. They told me they can tell me only so much, but that they would let me know as much as they could. They said they will be going out there this week, so I hope to hear from them soon.

Keep us posted!

dreamngold · 03-22-2006, 10:25 AM

I will definetely keep you posted. Thank you for supporting me,and to those of you who have a problem with this situation, well I really don't have anything to say to you.... Anyway. I will definetely keep you posted and updated on the happenings on this mare.

Sandra-A1 · 03-22-2006, 10:54 AM

dreamngold I doubt that anyone is upset that you are concerned for this horse.
I also doubt that anyone has a problem with your calling someone to check on this horse.

I will tell you what I am concerned about though and let me start off by saying it is not my intent to hurt your feelings....

I am concerned that you did take it upon yourself to enter the stall/paddock where this horse was being kept and apply liniment to it and stretch it's legs without the owner's permission or knowledge.
I am assuming that you did not have permission because you did not say that you had talked to the horse's owner.
I would have been very angry with you had I been the horse's owner....and I do not think that I am alone in feeling this way.

No one should take it upon themselve's to do what you did in this situation....No matter how good their intentions.
You have only your observations on which you have based your own diagnosis and treatment and to be frank, I doubt that you are qualified to do this. No one has the right to go do something to someone else's horse without their knowledge and permission!

I am glad to hear that you have found someone to come evaluate the situation and I do hope that all works out well for the horse in question's sake.
Still, I want to emphasize that in situations like this.... no one should take it upon themselves to do anything to someone else's horse with out the owner's knowledge AND permission.
This was NOT an emergency and a matter of life or death and naturally those cases can be considered differently than this one.
In this case, what you did was WRONG and you had no right to do so...no matter how good your intentions.
That is what has me really bothered.

Equine_Harmony · 03-22-2006, 10:58 AM

Hi,

In my first post page one, I thought you should and still do feel if you can talk to the owner, this is the only way you will find out what you really need to know, all of us would like to know.

Perhaps this horse does not like to be ridden, some don't not matter how much training goes into them, I know of a few. they make great companion's to the owners of the horses I am speaking about.

The horse sees the Veternarian, gets food, water and shelter, as for pain horse would be bitting the the area of where the pain is at, and pawing like mad, would not want to eat IMO. I just feel you should talk to the owner and just start off by saying something like this: I just love your horse reminds me of a horse I once had, they look like twins and I am very taken with your horse, just curious could you tell me if you ever plan on selling her? ask other questions, you may be surprised with by being nice, going about this conversation what you will learn, you may even speak to the veternarian of your concerns however he/she may not be able to let you know any information on the horse, it is like someone asking your doctor about you, the doctor is forbidden by law to answer, in horses and other animals I think the law is the same.

The Barn Manager, may know some info: though he/she may not feel nor right about asking your questions, it is best to talk to the owner the way I sugestesd in doing so IMHO.

Good Luck,

03-15-2006, 09:56 PM	#45
dreamngold Full Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ontario. Posts: 287 Images: 50	Thank you for that kodiskorner. Stina- well i put the absorbine on the horse because my gelding got tied up once and it helpe his tendons and muscles relax, and I stretched her legs in a way thay I was taught by the vet for stiff horses. She was worse for a couple steps and then went back to her old stiffness. She didn't stay worse. As for how this happened to her. The BO/BM told me that a pack of "wild dogs", not sure what that is, like stray dogs or like coyotes, but anyway. He said that these "wild dogs" chased the horses and spooked them. The horses got out of the pasture, just wire fencing that is hooked up to be electric but never turned on. This mare got really spooked and ran onto the busy road that the farm is next to and got hit by a truck. Not sure how big the truck was ro anything, just said truck. The same thing caused his pony to get out and get "lost" in the corn and eat itself half to death, she had a severe case of founder from it and was gone for about 5 days. All the other horses stayed around, but were quite spooked. __________________ Life without horses? I think not!!!

03-15-2006, 10:00 PM	#46
dreamngold Full Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ontario. Posts: 287 Images: 50	I am from southern Ontario, well Chatham to be exact. It is one hour from London and Windsor, Windsor is right next to Detroit. Also, I have stepped back from the whole case. But I did ask the investigators to let me know how everything goes. They told me they can tell me only so much, but that they would let me know as much as they could. They said they will be going out there this week, so I hope to hear from them soon. __________________ Life without horses? I think not!!!

03-22-2006, 10:25 AM	#48
dreamngold Full Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ontario. Posts: 287 Images: 50	I will definetely keep you posted. Thank you for supporting me,and to those of you who have a problem with this situation, well I really don't have anything to say to you.... Anyway. I will definetely keep you posted and updated on the happenings on this mare. __________________ Life without horses? I think not!!!

03-22-2006, 10:54 AM	#49
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,543 Images: 236	dreamngold I doubt that anyone is upset that you are concerned for this horse. I also doubt that anyone has a problem with your calling someone to check on this horse. I will tell you what I am concerned about though and let me start off by saying it is not my intent to hurt your feelings.... I am concerned that you did take it upon yourself to enter the stall/paddock where this horse was being kept and apply liniment to it and stretch it's legs without the owner's permission or knowledge. I am assuming that you did not have permission because you did not say that you had talked to the horse's owner. I would have been very angry with you had I been the horse's owner....and I do not think that I am alone in feeling this way. No one should take it upon themselve's to do what you did in this situation....No matter how good their intentions. You have only your observations on which you have based your own diagnosis and treatment and to be frank, I doubt that you are qualified to do this. No one has the right to go do something to someone else's horse without their knowledge and permission! I am glad to hear that you have found someone to come evaluate the situation and I do hope that all works out well for the horse in question's sake. Still, I want to emphasize that in situations like this.... no one should take it upon themselves to do anything to someone else's horse with out the owner's knowledge AND permission. This was NOT an emergency and a matter of life or death and naturally those cases can be considered differently than this one. In this case, what you did was WRONG and you had no right to do so...no matter how good your intentions. That is what has me really bothered. __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore

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03-10-2006, 11:29 PM	#41
MyBabyTex Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 3,194 Images: 66	Where in Ontario are you from?? Pm me if you want.

03-11-2006, 02:55 PM	#43
robsandcreek Full Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 51 Images: 1	Well I would defiantly call or email the ASPCA but, about the horse that got hit I would just put it down if the vet says that it is pain I would just put it down. We're gonna rock this pony right into this horse

03-14-2006, 08:31 AM	#44
kodiskorner Full Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 77 Images: 5	Wow. Lots to read about this issue. I won't go into detail on this, but I will say: It is okay that you called in an investigator. Most 'neglect' cases reported are due to owner uneducation. Now that you have talked with the BM, go ahead and step back. Let the investigators handle it. We have had neglect cases in Tx hindered when good samaritans feed the starving horses or do other things to try and take it into their own hands. This is what the investigator is trained to handle. That person will talk to the involved parties and get the whole story. If there IS a case of neglect (and yes, chronic pain can be an issue here) the investigator will handle it. I wish I could go into more detail of a case here in Tx that involved something of that nature, and the horse did have to be put down, but as an investigator myself I am not allowed to discuss details. I am thankful for your concern regarding this horse - and whatever the outcome, I am sure that the horse thanks you as well. Don't worry, I am sure that everything will all come out ok in the end. cat

03-22-2006, 10:58 AM	#50
Equine_Harmony Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a horses mind Posts: 832 Images: 11	Hi, In my first post page one, I thought you should and still do feel if you can talk to the owner, this is the only way you will find out what you really need to know, all of us would like to know. Perhaps this horse does not like to be ridden, some don't not matter how much training goes into them, I know of a few. they make great companion's to the owners of the horses I am speaking about. The horse sees the Veternarian, gets food, water and shelter, as for pain horse would be bitting the the area of where the pain is at, and pawing like mad, would not want to eat IMO. I just feel you should talk to the owner and just start off by saying something like this: I just love your horse reminds me of a horse I once had, they look like twins and I am very taken with your horse, just curious could you tell me if you ever plan on selling her? ask other questions, you may be surprised with by being nice, going about this conversation what you will learn, you may even speak to the veternarian of your concerns however he/she may not be able to let you know any information on the horse, it is like someone asking your doctor about you, the doctor is forbidden by law to answer, in horses and other animals I think the law is the same. The Barn Manager, may know some info: though he/she may not feel nor right about asking your questions, it is best to talk to the owner the way I sugestesd in doing so IMHO. Good Luck,