[Dawn]

The frog and heel is likely related to one another. And fixing the heel will help you allow to fix the frog.

The flat footedness is also likely at least partially related to the heel issue, and I really wouldn't be suprised to see that the horse has long and/or dished toes.

[Equine747]

Originally Posted by Dawn

The frog and heel is likely related to one another. And fixing the heel will help you allow to fix the frog.

The flat footedness is also likely at least partially related to the heel issue, and I really wouldn't be suprised to see that the horse has long and/or dished toes.

she used to have really bad flares but that is just about gone but she still has a small dish though. I will get photos of her hooves with them on the ground (would you like to see them now or after the farrier trims them)?
Thank You for taking the time to help me

[Dawn]

I'd like to see them now definately. And then again after the trim would be great too.

[Equine747]

I will get you some photos Sat. Morning

[Equine747]

Here are the photos of Lady's front hooves
Let me know what you see!
What I should talk to the farrier about and things I can do myself to help fix any problems - Thank You.
Front right hoof

Front left hoof

Other views

[RickB.]

There is not a whole heck of a lot to gripe about with the front feet. While I do see some dishing/flare at the toe that should be addressed from the top side, and I would probably pull the heels back a bit more, overall, not too bad. There is some wall chipping evident, but that can be easily fixed with a few quick strokes of the rasp. Along with pulling the heels back a bit, I'd like to see the breakover location at the toe moved a bit more towards the apex of the frog.
Again, this is all "tweaking" the trim, not a major overhaul.

It is hard to draw any conclusions about the hind feet, but I am getting the impression that the toes are long, the M/L balance looks like it needs some adjusting and that perhaps the is the presence of a negative plane coffin bone.

[Equine747]

Originally Posted by RickB.

There is not a whole heck of a lot to gripe about with the front feet. While I do see some dishing/flare at the toe that should be addressed from the top side, and I would probably pull the heels back a bit more, overall, not too bad. There is some wall chipping evident, but that can be easily fixed with a few quick strokes of the rasp. Along with pulling the heels back a bit, I'd like to see the breakover location at the toe moved a bit more towards the apex of the frog.
Again, this is all "tweaking" the trim, not a major overhaul.

It is hard to draw any conclusions about the hind feet, but I am getting the impression that the toes are long, the M/L balance looks like it needs some adjusting and that perhaps the is the presence of a negative plane coffin bone.

THANK YOU!
I was hoping that you would post .
I know lady's back hooves need to be trimmed and that her toes are long It has only been 1 month since her back hooves have been done and 2 weeks for her front hooves (The farrier is coming out and I did not have much time so I just left her back hooves for him to do). I am plaining on having some shoes put on her back hooves because she is still toed out pretty bad (I can not remember the name of the shoe but it is going to help her straiten her back out I believe). I am sure you have experience with shoes like this, what is your thought on them?
Thanks again for posting It makes be feel better about trimming her myself (Of course I will always have my farrier come out every couple months just to see how all my horses are doing and change anything that needs to be changed). I will use all the info you just gave me to help her!

[RickB.]

Originally Posted by Equine747

I am plaining on having some shoes put on her back hooves because she is still toed out pretty bad

Why? Unless she is interfering, trying to straighten the back legs is going to do more harm than good. And your farrier should know this.

Often times, just getting the feet trimmed correctly is going to be enough. Then, the addition of shoes, if necessary, can be undertaken.

I am sure you have experience with shoes like this, what is your thought on them?

Until I know what kind of shoes are going to be used, and what, if any, modifications to those shoes are going to be made, and why, I cannot answer the question.

[Equine747]

I was going to put shoes on her back hooves because a few years ago she had pretty strait legs but since I got her back from my husbands friend she has been toed out really bad. I mentioned it the the farrier and he just said that the shoes will not completely straiten her out it will just help encourage them (I think that is what He told me). I was not set on the whole shoe thing I was just taking it into consideration.
My farrier did not get into detail on the shoes He just told me the above and left (He was in a hurry to get the the Golf Course).
I probably will not have shoes put on her now (I will just keep on trying with the trimming).
Do you have any advice for the way you would trim a horses back hooves that are toed out? or anything else I should do with her back hooves I remember you saying that it looked like she had some problems back there

[RickB.]

Originally Posted by Equine747

Do you have any advice for the way you would trim a horses back hooves that are toed out? or anything else I should do with her back hooves I remember you saying that it looked like she had some problems back there

Take some photos at ground level with the camera perpendicular to the side of the hoof you are photographing, with the horse standing relaxed but squarely on flat, hard, level ground, such as asphalt or concrete. Make sure to take some photos of the bottom of the feet too.

Add in som photos of her hind leg conformation, front, side and rear.

Post them here and lets see what we can come up with.

Rick