[PaintedFate]

I Live in Ohio and the District(county) I live in does nothing for the abused horses here
I Have seen it more then i should have seeing as how Im only 15 but
There is a place down the road they have not even like a quarter of an acre (they arnt zoned for large animals ither *SUPRISE *) and at the moment have 3 horses two yearlings and a paint gelding .
Before that they had a mare who was the Dam to one of the yearlings but she got LockJaw ...Which isnt that comment now a days and they had her put down but they had her put down in the barn so to get her out they went in the barn and CUT HER UP into pieces with saws !!!!
The next door owner has called our aAPCA but they do 1 follow up vist of the horses are lucky and thats it ....I just hate seeing these poor helpless horses being treated like this and not being able to help and have something really done is there .....Anyway to change how these poor animals are helped ?? and make our ASPCA do a better job HELPING !!!

[pocahontas]

PaintedFate

Contact these rescues in Ohio and ask them.
They'll know.

http://www.equinerescue.com/staterescues.html#ohio

http://horsewelfare.8k.com/ohio.html

[Blistering Winds]

WHOA...

what exactly are you calling on?

the fact they had to cut the horse out of the barn?

HELLO, honestly, that happens more often than you think. Especially in barns with metal frames. One horse at a barn I boarded at down south did it. They did it when the least amount of people were there.

But the animal was dead. So honestly, who cares what they do to the body. Most people don't. They would rather dump it in a trash heap (Which is what you do when you do normal disposal.)


Lockjaw IS still common among people who do not give Tetanus shots. there is no law against NOT giving tetanus. Nor can ASPCA do much about you if you choose NOT to vaccinate your horse. Especially if you let the horses go "All natural".



Do they have Hay and water?

I've seen several horses on just as small acres and kept them successfully. Currently, my horse's home is on a little over 1/4 acre.

If he is not zoned, contact the City Code enforcement. That will get him a notice to remove horses if he is not zoned for livestock.


What exactly is the abuse?

[practiallydream]

yeah u got a point...

[PaintedFate]

-yea i understand about the way they had to remove the horse but What i didnt metion was the fact they did this after she layed in the barn for three weeks with the other horses

-To not vaccinete you horse is irresponsilbe(my view if you dont like it ..Tough you dont have to )

-I know the owners and i also know the lady who has a barn next door who has had to go over there and feed the horses ALSO she has had to water the dog at the house with the barn in 90 degree weather becusae the owners leave the dog out all day with no water

-If you can keep your horse well on the land good for you these people arnt like you im sorry to say......


-Im not trying to be arrongant like some people im not meaning to be ignorrant I just want to know about helping animals in need around here ............Whats wrong with that

[Blistering Winds]

Again, I'm confused.

Honestly, if someone is having to feed the horses, do you know if they have arraingements, or did she just say she fed the horses?

As long as the horses are healthy, and she continues to take it upon herself to feed/water the animals.....

There is NOTHING you guys can get done.

There has to be shown a "trend" in the animals.

Very Ribby Sides, No hay/water signs anywhere that looks to be for several days, dog must be literally almost on his last leg


I know it is hard to watch, but that is the way to get things done because even if you feed the animals, and TELL them you fed them, the animals have food and that is all they need to know to leave the scene and close the case.



The horse that laid in the barn....do you know the details? Do you know if the horse had a disease and they were trying to let it live out its life?

MANY Owners do not believe in chemical euthanization. So they will allow their animals to die on their own. It is VERY hard to watch. But it is their right to do it.


So honestly, that won't hold water since the horse is now gone. For all you know, the people have a vet report showing the horse was dying.


But that isn't going to be here nor there with AC. They won't care about that since the animal is now gone.


As for the current animals, what are their BCS? If they are low, you and the neighbor need to NOT FEED ANYTHING. DO NOT WATER ANYTHING. it is VERY hard to sit back and watch, but after 24 hrs, call AC if you know they haven't been out. The horses will have external signs that they have been out of water for that time and not fed at all.

THAT will get them nailed. Usually if the horses aren't in dire need of vet attention, they will get a warning. 2nd time usually gets the animals removed. Especially in a short time frame.

So if they are "neglecting" their horses, abuse is the actual beating the snot out of them, causing physical pain through a physical source....


Anyways, if they are Neglecting their animals, this is the only legal way to nail them.

[pocahontas]

BW as usual you are looking way into it and going off in directions that don't even make sense. Making a mountain out of a moehill.

This forum member came on for advice, and you don't need to knock her down for her concerns and heart for this situation. She is their, she knows what she sees, and her gut is telling her something could be wrong.

Let's support her and point her in the right direction in Ohio and let the knowledgeble ones in THAT area help.

[Blistering Winds]

Going in directions that don't make sense.....to whom?

I'm informing her what her and her neighbor need to NOT do and how and possibly WHY the AC/Sheriff/ASPCA have not done anything.

They may HAVE been out, but found no cause for action because her and/or her neighbor have fed/watered the animals. Which is a big clencher on if the authorities can or cannot remove the animals from the care.



As well as some "nit pick" things that may or may not be an all the time occurance. Something that happened and I mentioned a possibility of WHY it could have happened. And asked more questions.

She is getting frustrated with her authorities and I'm trying to see WHY. because it could just be that they cannot act because the animals are healthy and well fed. Or if they are borderline neglect, her neighbor feeding them is keeping the authorities from acting.

More goes into removing animals than just a few phone calls and a neighbor's word that THEY are feeding the animals.


I'm not going to SUPPORT Someone who may just didn't like the one situation and is now out to get a neighbor for allowing their horse to die in the stall naturally.

Or a few times, the dog's water is out.

Not saying that this situation is, but it unfortunately is the reason why many sheriffs/AC officers don't just jump to a call anymore.

If this is truely a Neglect case, they need to STOP feeding/watering the animals and call the Sheriff immediately, informing them the dog has been out of water for over 24 hours.

Beyond getting Animal Control or ASPCA out, the News Media would be the next step if this is truely neglect with no one responding properly.

however, they may HAVE responded. But again, found no reason to act.

And I spoke about WHY they may have not acted. So she can understand the possibilities more. They don't release information very well to people whether they are or not acting in some way.

[SalemsMom]

Originally Posted by Blistering Winds

WHOA...

what exactly are you calling on?

the fact they had to cut the horse out of the barn?

HELLO, honestly, that happens more often than you think. Especially in barns with metal frames. One horse at a barn I boarded at down south did it. They did it when the least amount of people were there.

But the animal was dead. So honestly, who cares what they do to the body. Most people don't. They would rather dump it in a trash heap (Which is what you do when you do normal disposal.)


Lockjaw IS still common among people who do not give Tetanus shots. there is no law against NOT giving tetanus. Nor can ASPCA do much about you if you choose NOT to vaccinate your horse. Especially if you let the horses go "All natural".



Do they have Hay and water?

I've seen several horses on just as small acres and kept them successfully. Currently, my horse's home is on a little over 1/4 acre.

If he is not zoned, contact the City Code enforcement. That will get him a notice to remove horses if he is not zoned for livestock.


What exactly is the abuse?

It also depends if his place was zoned different,and he was grandfathered in,those people can keep livestock on small acreage,because the laws was different back then.Are the horses fed and watered,with shelter? You left out a lot. just because there isn't much arcreage doesn't mean they are not taken care of. We have ours on two acres,for 4 horses, and are well kept.

[SalemsMom]

Someone around us called the spca on us,because the horses were bare lotted, they came out and investigated,seen the horses were fed and watered,and had shelter, but I also know,Ohio is bad for abuse cases, I called them on a guy who was starving his horses,and no water,or shelter,one had died,and they never did come,after I called three times, I finally called the police,and they came,and took the horses. So try that.