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    how hard should you work a 3 year old?

    Ok I have a mare 3 years old turning 4 in May, she is a rescue I have put tons ground hours in her,teaching her manners,lunging ground work everything she has gone from wild to tame and is awsome! However someone had mentioned to me they thought I worked her too hard, when i lunge her she is a TB/standard cross with tons energy, I let her canter/gallop out she bucks fools around kills off tons energy so I can get her to the point where she will learn, thats how I have always trained. Yes she is soaked but she is an easy sweater, but then I can work with her for 30 min walk her out and we are done. I prob do this average 4 times a week, I was trained on a racetrack..this seems lightwork to me. Am I over working her? Her legs are always wrapped/or has boots on and she is always warmed up and cooled down.

    The next question is she started under saddle this week, she did great how much is too much with a rider..I was thinking walk,trot,canter the basics get them down with a rider who weights like 120 pounds 4 or 5 days a week. I dont think its too much, what does everyone else think?

    The only reason I doubt myself its been 15 years or so since I have had to train a baby..she was my little angel. A little history I rescued her in April this year, she was in sad shape,wild and had been horrible abused. I have put on 390 pounds on her, calmed her..put manners on her, she will do anything for me, she trailers and does most anything I ask.






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    She is rising 4 this spring and 120 pounds is nothing. You will not hurt her.
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    I wish i weighed 120 pounds!!! LOL I have couple really good riders awaiting her, i am recovering from a fractured knee so i cant risk gettin on a baby just yet, I ride my other one!

    But thanks I thought so...things are so different now.

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    I think you will probably get a variety of answers to this question... I don't agree with RiosDad, per se, but he could be right, too. It's not even so much the weight of the rider that would concern me, it's the ability- can the rider manage her own weight and balance without depending on the horse? Is she experienced enough to know when to call it quits for the day, when the horse is feeling overfaced by the task(s) at hand?

    Your mare looks to be in good health (that must feel good, having brought her around yourself), but I don't see her as being particularly muscled, especially her top line. If you're going to put more time into working her, I would focus more on building strength- hill work, intermittent trotting and walking, short canters focusing on transitions, and light bending (i.e, not rollbacks and tight turns, but serpentines, figure eights, and other patterns).

    There's a lot you can do to bring a young horse along, BETTER (IMHO), without actually putting more time in the saddle- with any horse, but especially a young one, I think it's the quality of ride that counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalipinot View Post
    Ok I have a mare 3 years old turning 4 in May, she is a rescue I have put tons ground hours in her,teaching her manners,lunging ground work everything she has gone from wild to tame and is awsome! However someone had mentioned to me they thought I worked her too hard, when i lunge her she is a TB/standard cross with tons energy, I let her canter/gallop out she bucks fools around kills off tons energy so I can get her to the point where she will learn, thats how I have always trained.
    IMVHO, while I know others will agree with you, this is a very wrong thing to do. Not only are you putting SO much stress on legs, young or not, on a circle by allowing all that careening around, creating huge torques, you are teaching her it's ok to f.art around when "attached" to you (I use that word loosely because "attached" doesn't have to be physically attached, could be loose in a round pen, or doing something in the pasture, etc).

    If she gets enough turnout, there is *zero* reason for her to have excess energy. If she only knows "I can do whatever I want before I have to pay attention", you are setting a scary precedent for the coming years. Once a horse is "attached" to you, the goal should ALWAYS be to pay attention from the get-go.

    If she doesn't get enough turnout, and I fully understand there are some situations like that, and she truly does need to burn off some steam, then turn her loose in a ring or pasture and let her have at it on her own, you are doing nothing but watching from outside. If all she does is meander around, nose to ground, then she does not have excess energy, and any pretense on her part once you are connected is purely mental.

    It is MUCH easier to teach from Day One that when you are there, learning and paying attention are turned on, period Her breed is not an excuse

    Yes she is soaked but she is an easy sweater, but then I can work with her for 30 min walk her out and we are done. I prob do this average 4 times a week, I was trained on a racetrack..this seems lightwork to me. Am I over working her? Her legs are always wrapped/or has boots on and she is always warmed up and cooled down.
    IMVHO, that sort of work, and yes her bucking and running is a LOT of work on joints for any horse, much less a younger one.

    The next question is she started under saddle this week, she did great how much is too much with a rider..I was thinking walk,trot,canter the basics get them down with a rider who weights like 120 pounds 4 or 5 days a week. I dont think its too much, what does everyone else think?
    Given her background, I would be at 3 days a week max for a few months, until this Summer. It doesn't have to take long to work on those things, so 20-30 minutes *total*, 3, maybe 4 days a week.


    She is very, very cute The fact that she was so poorly taken care of may very well mean her body is not as mature as her age would seem to indicate. Treat her as if she's 6-12 months younger than she is
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    I think you're doing a lot more damage letting her gallop and buck willy nilly on the lunge line (which is never ok IMO) than you would if you just got on and rode her correctly. Lunging is very hard on joints, especially young ones.

    I do not lunge young horses unless it's absolutely necessary, and certainly not faster than a controlled canter for more than 5 minutes. I can't even remember the last time my coming 4yo saw the end of a lunge line, but she does simple flatwork 4-5 times a week.

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    really ...she has tons of energy, I let her run the arena alone 20-30 min b4 i even attempt to lung her, she thinks more when tired...I dont how you would calm a hyper horse and teach basic commands from ground with out lunging? Once she is tired yes i do lunge at walk and trot to tech her basic voice commands, then we back rein from ground or work on bending all kinds. I think b4 you even get on a horse with a past all those should be covered and done from ground. I would never want anyone to get on her without allowing her to kill off energy, and yes she is outside like 9 hours a day huge paddock. Yes i agree she def will have a skilled rider on her no doubt, we will work on basics.

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    I guess i am old school of sorts..out of date maybe, we always worked them out, then get them to learn. Here are some pic of her in action, I let her run the arena lots..she has gotten used to sounds as well.




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    FWIW, letting her zoom around will not build frame or condition... if you need her to get her energy wound down, turn her out, maybe with a buddy who also wants to zoom (even then, be cautious that no one gets hurt).

    Not sure how I missed this part in your OP, but this cranking around the ring (on the line or free) isn't "work" at all- it's just exhaustive. You're not actually asking her to use herself, you're just playing her out. Like I said, turnout is more appropriate for this...

    Hope this helps. Has your vet weighed in on this at all (along the lines of joints closing)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalipinot View Post
    I guess i am old school of sorts..out of date maybe, we always worked them out, then get them to learn.
    I don't particularly agree with that. I think a horse should learn that from the moment I get it out, they're on my time and they have a job to do. First priority of which is doing what I ask without dramatics or silliness. But that is my opinion from many many green horses, and many many years of watching people that always have to lunge their horses before they ride because they have succeeded in teaching them how to act like idiots. I get my filly out, tack her up, get on and go. If she wants to play she can do it on her time, not mine. As long as they have appropriate turnout there is no excuse IMO.

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