[kyryah]

Originally Posted by Appylvr

I'm confused??? What is there about the horse in the original post that makes anyone think Splash??? It looks just like a normal solid to me...

Hmm, what there was is that I am not fully comfortable identifying spalsh. I aplogize if I do not have your expertise.

Kristina

[accphotography]

She just said possible... and I have seen splash present this minimal before so of course it IS possible.

ACC

[kyryah]

Originally Posted by Bodi

Could be bay though. Not the gelding but the Arab/Haf. You sometimes see this color in the Belgian/Perch crosses. It's always funky, and I think because the pangare maybe?
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I'm also sorry but I get kind of put off by the saying of, you shouldn't pick a horse just because it's (bay, blue roan, buckskin). That there is somehow some problem because you like a horse and you happen to state one of your reason's for liking it IS for it's color. I'm sorry but if the horse doesn't appeal to me more than conformationally then why in the heck am I feeding it. I'd wrather feed a horse I like conformationally, and colorwise, and that I think gosh dang. That's a gorgeous horse, the color I want and everything else too! Coming from a breed being Percherons who people are so "color dumb" about, and I try not to say that in a negative way, but the simple fact is it is true. Here is a breed that doesn't just come in black and grey, and if your Percheron isn't just black or grey everyone instantly assumes the horse is not purebred, or that you bought it only for color. Yeah, we purchased a blue roan and we bought him for his color. The thing is though we picked him because he was the best available in his color at that time to us.

That doesn't mean we haven't picked plain ol' chestnut mare's in the past because we liked them for them. People just need to look outside the box of the color panic we all seem to have when somebody says they like a horse's color too. I'd much wrather like to eat my chocolate cake with cream cheese white frosting, but should I eat it with chocolate frosting too just because everybody else says I should and that's the norm? My policy is this, be open when it comes to color of horses. I don't judge a horse based solely on color, but anybody with their right mind is more likely to pick a color they like than one they just think is okay.

Nice horses by the way.

I agree, good post. I also don't understand, what is wrong with me looking for a horse in the color that I prefer? I happen to be a Haflinger fan. I will not purchase another horse that is not a Haflinger or Haflinger cross. As already stated, Haflingers are chestnut/sorrel/palomino. Just because I prefer those colors does not mean I am going to buy the first chestnut that comes along, and not worry about temperment, conformation, and training. It just simply means that a sorrel horse with a blonde mane and tail catches my eye. I really don't see why I should recieve this much flack for this. It is not like I posted an ugly chestnut horse with the temperment of a badger and think that it is soooo pretty and I am going to go right out and buy it now, 'cuz it be a purtly lil' chesnut!! Instead, I posted a horse that was advertised as bay and turns out to be bucksin, that has beautiful conformation and I am very interested in. Yes, chestnut is a common color, but I prefer flashy, good looking horses, and is this horse not flashy built and good looking? I don't yet know about his temperment or trainability, but I will be finding out shortly when I meet him.

I have had fuglies, and guess what, they were all great! Does that mean that I have to CHOOSE ugly horses? Of course not!

I don't know, all this "don't pick a horse just because of color" is driving me nuts, because I most certainly am not!

Kristina

[Appylvr]

Originally Posted by kyryah

Hmm, what there was is that I am not fully comfortable identifying spalsh. I aplogize if I do not have your expertise.

Kristina

I never said I was an expert... I was truly confused and was hoping someone would point it out to me... When I hear splash I think of Gambling Man or a horse like that... not a solid with a star and sock... I was just asking... sorry if I offended.

[Drafty1]

While you all are looking at his color I'm looking at the fact that he has a chain across his nose and its and been "snapped" (yanked, force applied) by the way his halter is fitting. This make me wonder how his ground manners are and how well trained he is. I know I can walk out into my field and grab any of my horses and I don't need a chain to any other "aids" to lead them around to take pictures. Colors nice but disposition is better. JMO

[kyryah]

Originally Posted by Drafty1

While you all are looking at his color I'm looking at the fact that he has a chain across his nose and its and been "snapped" (yanked, force applied) by the way his halter is fitting. This make me wonder how his ground manners are and how well trained he is. I know I can walk out into my field and grab any of my horses and I don't need a chain to any other "aids" to lead them around to take pictures. Colors nice but disposition is better. JMO

I have already asked that question of his owner. I am not incapable of dealing with behavioral issues. It blows my mind the amount of people that tell me things like "Don't buy that horse if it has catch issues!" Personally, such things are not a big deal to me.

If the horse needs to be retrained, then it needs to be retrained. Simple as that. I don't know of too many horses that are plain and simple untrainable.

I, *too* can walk out and get my horses and lead them without aids. I don't even need a halter or a lead rope, just a hand held in the air under their chin. They back up with a flick of my finger. And on top of that, three of them were abused, and completely wild ("catch issues are an understatement) and one was a 14 yr old basically untouched mare.

I am not a first time horse owner.

So, what does this really have to do with his color?

Kristina

[Bodi]

No I'm not mad or nothing at nobody to clarify. I'm just ranting about the saying because it happened to be under this topic. As for truly looking at the horse and giving a opinion on whether it is a good buy or not. I truly cannot state that as I cannot see the horse in person, nor do I personally know your time limits, any constraints or responsibilities you already have, and what you are already capable of handling. So hence I just decided to comment on the color. As for the splash.... that is why ACC asked about any blue eyes as on other forums it has been discussed with being linked with splash horses no matter how minimal ect.. We know that not every splash is ABC typical and how it is exibited can be as varied as a white sock, to stockings, bald face, body white and more.

However as for his color. The ??? in the topic post meant for comment from ACC. Possible splash being you were unsure. So it left room for comment on the color of the horse. Didn't stay completely on the topic, but it's still involved with your original post.

[Berlunz]

I dont think the person who said don't buy for color meant don't buy color. I think they meant do go out and buy a bucksking just because its a buckskin. I agree that color is great and if you want a colored horse then search for a horse of that color. Unfortunatel I know a lot of people who don't want to pay the price of a colored horse so when they find one they snatch it up and then later find out that the horse is an absolute nut and they get hurt. I think she was just trying to be friendly and say make sure its a good horse as well as a colorful one ^^.

I have already asked that question of his owner. I am not incapable of dealing with behavioral issues. It blows my mind the amount of people that tell me things like "Don't buy that horse if it has catch issues!" Personally, such things are not a big deal to me.

I think people are just trying to be friendly and make sure that the horse you buy does not have any issues you cannot deal with. Unfortunately this is the internet and we do not know you from the next person so we can't tell what you do and do not know. They are just offering some suggestions and information you may have missed.

I don't like how his neck and hips look but I am not an expert on draft crosses so I couldn't say. From the picture his neck looks too long and a bit too thick at the base and his hips look a bit too square. But like I said I dont know much about draft crosses so I am not sure if those are desired traits or not.

edit: also did the owner send you those pictures? If so I would be a lil suspicious. The first two look like the same horse but once you see the third its conformation changes, as does its color. If you look at its feet it only has 1 white foot where as the pictures above it have 3 white socks so I have never seen a horses white foot change colors before.

[RiddleMeThis]

Originally Posted by Berlunz

Iedit: also did the owner send you those pictures? If so I would be a lil suspicious. The first two look like the same horse but once you see the third its conformation changes, as does its color. If you look at its feet it only has 1 white foot where as the pictures above it have 3 white socks so I have never seen a horses white foot change colors before.

They appear to be the same horse to me. The confo doesnt change. He is stood up different and movig. Also those arent white feet. Its silver hair on his legs. As for the color change the horse appears fuzzy i the first few and then clipped in the others.

[Mutrok]

Originally Posted by Drafty1

While you all are looking at his color I'm looking at the fact that he has a chain across his nose and its and been "snapped" (yanked, force applied) by the way his halter is fitting. This make me wonder how his ground manners are and how well trained he is. I know I can walk out into my field and grab any of my horses and I don't need a chain to any other "aids" to lead them around to take pictures. Colors nice but disposition is better. JMO

I am not so sure that it is a matter of having been shanked on or the fact that the halter is ill fitting, the chain is put on wrong (not how I would do it at least, especially with a halter that doesn't fit) and causing it to pull the halter.

Splash or not he is a cuttie