Good idea?

Horsebrat20 · 07-25-2004, 06:46 PM

Ok, right now i'm with a jumping instructor. Blue is 6 years old. I would like to get into jumping eventually, wether or not to compete i don't know, but i want her to be able to do it with ease and confidence. But, right now i think she needs a little more confidence on the flat. SHe needs to learn to relax and supple up really nice. She supples now and relaxes some once we're a good half hour t 45 mins into the lesson. Should i do dressage and jumping at the same time with diff instructors? The instructor i have now has helped me alot with her on the flat, but i just think she needs more. What do you think? Thanks for any input.

Horsebrat20 · 07-26-2004, 06:03 AM

Bumb* anyone?

cassidy · 07-26-2004, 07:37 AM

well a horse has to be good on the flat in order to be able to get the jumping right (getting right strides an leads ect)

i mean i dont think it would do any harm to do both there are others on here that have more than one instructure for different things!! so id say y not it would give both you an blue something to think about!

QTRgirl · 07-26-2004, 09:42 AM

Why not talk to the instructor you have now. She knows you, and your horse very well, and would probably be able to give you some guidance.

cassidy · 07-26-2004, 10:50 AM

yeah but becareful here if that is the instructure you may not be using anymore!!

Horsebrat20 · 07-26-2004, 02:08 PM

Yes, i'm just worried that his techiques aren't exactly good for BLue. He likes to crank thier head in when their not listening to bumping. That makes her a bit tense. Today i tried a different way, where i had a pretty loose rein and just bumped until she figured out what i wanted. She got right on the bit that way after a while and was relaxing right into it. I don't know though, it's all so confusing, i don't want her to be trained wrong, but i don't think my instructor now is a bad trainer. I don't know what to do.

KT · 07-26-2004, 02:13 PM

hmm... i would say find a trainer that will GET ON your horse...thats what mine do...or one does... and she can help you to train the horse...its GREAT to have an experienced person get on and see how your horse goes...rather than just watching...thats a whole differnt call there when you just watch...i LOVE having someone be able to get on and feel what i feel and ask and SHOW me how to ask and teach my horse how to respond...and teach me...i think that is just a MAJOR plus in a trainer!

Horsebrat20 · 07-26-2004, 05:10 PM

Yeah, except for, my horse would probably freak if someone were to get on her. She still freaks sometimes when i get on. Don't ask me why, she's a spazy horse. Well i'm gonna talk to him next lesson, they do have a dressage instructor at the same barn that my instructor teaches at, so hopefully their good. I would like someone to be able to teacgh me how to get my horse to relax (and me) and to get her basically carm and collected. Now the way my trainer teaches me, really doesn't relax either one of us, but i don't know if i'm just being a wimp or something and thinking i'm supposed to be feeling something i'm not. (such as how she comes onto the bit or something) if that makes any sense. If it doesn't then you'll know what i'm gong through. I don't know what's right and wrong, so how can i judge whats best for my horse? Thanks for the advice!

KT · 07-26-2004, 05:30 PM

well... she will HAVE to get used to another rider at some point...and it will help you to...in the long run...and if its a trainer...she/he will be able to handle what your horse does...and she will get used to having other people on her back...that is HONESTLY the best thing for her...and you...i think...once she gets some other people on her...she will relax more..and so will you...if you get a trainer...who has ridden MUCH worse horses im sure...the trainer will be nice and calm...and she can really work with her...and then once you know the cues...you can work with her too and you will both start to just relax and come together! GOOD LUCK...

Horsebrat20 · 07-26-2004, 05:32 PM

Thank you KT. Yes i aggree, it will be good for her. I guess i just gotta find a trainer willing to do that. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it's something useful to ask when looking for a trainer.

07-25-2004, 06:46 PM	#1
Horsebrat20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: RI Posts: 1,631 Images: 43	Good idea? Ok, right now i'm with a jumping instructor. Blue is 6 years old. I would like to get into jumping eventually, wether or not to compete i don't know, but i want her to be able to do it with ease and confidence. But, right now i think she needs a little more confidence on the flat. SHe needs to learn to relax and supple up really nice. She supples now and relaxes some once we're a good half hour t 45 mins into the lesson. Should i do dressage and jumping at the same time with diff instructors? The instructor i have now has helped me alot with her on the flat, but i just think she needs more. What do you think? Thanks for any input. __________________ "The biggest enemy to the partnership of dressage is impatience and the human nature to dominate other creatures." Walter Zettl

07-26-2004, 06:03 AM	#2
Horsebrat20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: RI Posts: 1,631 Images: 43	Bumb* anyone? __________________ "The biggest enemy to the partnership of dressage is impatience and the human nature to dominate other creatures." Walter Zettl

07-26-2004, 07:37 AM	#3
cassidy Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: england - its sunny sometimes honest! Posts: 21,778 Images: 843	well a horse has to be good on the flat in order to be able to get the jumping right (getting right strides an leads ect) i mean i dont think it would do any harm to do both there are others on here that have more than one instructure for different things!! so id say y not it would give both you an blue something to think about! __________________ bluebell , haribo , william & lil bill May your life be like toilet paper - Long and useful A horse doesn't care how much you know until he knows how much you care. - Pat Parelli http://www.freewebs.com/linz88055/myprofile.htm

07-26-2004, 10:50 AM	#5
cassidy Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2004 Location: england - its sunny sometimes honest! Posts: 21,778 Images: 843	yeah but becareful here if that is the instructure you may not be using anymore!! __________________ bluebell , haribo , william & lil bill May your life be like toilet paper - Long and useful A horse doesn't care how much you know until he knows how much you care. - Pat Parelli http://www.freewebs.com/linz88055/myprofile.htm

07-26-2004, 02:08 PM	#6
Horsebrat20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: RI Posts: 1,631 Images: 43	Yes, i'm just worried that his techiques aren't exactly good for BLue. He likes to crank thier head in when their not listening to bumping. That makes her a bit tense. Today i tried a different way, where i had a pretty loose rein and just bumped until she figured out what i wanted. She got right on the bit that way after a while and was relaxing right into it. I don't know though, it's all so confusing, i don't want her to be trained wrong, but i don't think my instructor now is a bad trainer. I don't know what to do. __________________ "The biggest enemy to the partnership of dressage is impatience and the human nature to dominate other creatures." Walter Zettl

07-26-2004, 09:42 AM	#4
QTRgirl Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,055	Why not talk to the instructor you have now. She knows you, and your horse very well, and would probably be able to give you some guidance.

07-26-2004, 02:13 PM	#7
KT Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA...down south Posts: 1,530	hmm... i would say find a trainer that will GET ON your horse...thats what mine do...or one does... and she can help you to train the horse...its GREAT to have an experienced person get on and see how your horse goes...rather than just watching...thats a whole differnt call there when you just watch...i LOVE having someone be able to get on and feel what i feel and ask and SHOW me how to ask and teach my horse how to respond...and teach me...i think that is just a MAJOR plus in a trainer!

07-26-2004, 05:10 PM	#8
Horsebrat20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: RI Posts: 1,631 Images: 43	Yeah, except for, my horse would probably freak if someone were to get on her. She still freaks sometimes when i get on. Don't ask me why, she's a spazy horse. Well i'm gonna talk to him next lesson, they do have a dressage instructor at the same barn that my instructor teaches at, so hopefully their good. I would like someone to be able to teacgh me how to get my horse to relax (and me) and to get her basically carm and collected. Now the way my trainer teaches me, really doesn't relax either one of us, but i don't know if i'm just being a wimp or something and thinking i'm supposed to be feeling something i'm not. (such as how she comes onto the bit or something) if that makes any sense. If it doesn't then you'll know what i'm gong through. I don't know what's right and wrong, so how can i judge whats best for my horse? Thanks for the advice! __________________ "The biggest enemy to the partnership of dressage is impatience and the human nature to dominate other creatures." Walter Zettl

07-26-2004, 05:30 PM	#9
KT Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: USA...down south Posts: 1,530	well... she will HAVE to get used to another rider at some point...and it will help you to...in the long run...and if its a trainer...she/he will be able to handle what your horse does...and she will get used to having other people on her back...that is HONESTLY the best thing for her...and you...i think...once she gets some other people on her...she will relax more..and so will you...if you get a trainer...who has ridden MUCH worse horses im sure...the trainer will be nice and calm...and she can really work with her...and then once you know the cues...you can work with her too and you will both start to just relax and come together! GOOD LUCK...

07-26-2004, 05:32 PM	#10
Horsebrat20 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: RI Posts: 1,631 Images: 43	Thank you KT. Yes i aggree, it will be good for her. I guess i just gotta find a trainer willing to do that. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it's something useful to ask when looking for a trainer. __________________ "The biggest enemy to the partnership of dressage is impatience and the human nature to dominate other creatures." Walter Zettl

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