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Old 08-07-2008, 12:49 PM   #11
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1) at the trot your are riding off balance. work on sitting back and upright. Her stop was a bit messy started on the haunches but fell forward fast. Part of tis might be your upper body balance.

2) So you lope a lot and not trot much or is this just the video you had to put up?
Spend a lot of time one walk and trot. I would probably not lope her until she gets soft and round at the walk and trot.

3) she is not at all on the bit. She is just hanging out in space there which is part of her issue. She needs you there to support her as she learns to carry herself round She is very hollow and just looks very out of balance at the lope.

4) I'd get her into a lighter bit for ring work and save the shanked bit for shows and show prep rides. She's a long way from show ready. She appears to be trying to stay above it and avoid it.

5) get rid of the tie down and teach her to soften.

6) if you stoop and back I didn't see it but once in the video. Int th time from you rode I would have had my horse stopped and backed about 6 times. That is what I mean by often. I would not complete the length of one wall without a stop/back combo.

This horse needs a lot a lot a lot more slow work. Cantering is fun but if you don't get your foundation solid your gonna have a crash some day. Take your time and get her right.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:52 PM   #12
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Do not pause between stop and back....

it's stop/back not stop/breathe/back.

If you let the horses mind rest for one moment she will not connect the two.
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:31 PM   #13
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1) at the trot your are riding off balance. work on sitting back and upright. Her stop was a bit messy started on the haunches but fell forward fast. Part of tis might be your upper body balance.
Thank you for the input. I agree... my riding needs work. Like I said, I will be getting dressage lessons when she is healed and ready to go.
2) So you lope a lot and not trot much or is this just the video you had to put up?
Spend a lot of time one walk and trot. I would probably not lope her until she gets soft and round at the walk and trot.
I walk and trotted a lot more than the video showed. I took this video for a possible buyer and wanted to keep it short so I edited out most of the trotting and walking.

3) she is not at all on the bit. She is just hanging out in space there which is part of her issue. She needs you there to support her as she learns to carry herself round She is very hollow and just looks very out of balance at the lope.
She will get on the bit when I ask (I think) lol. It was ******** cold that day so I wanted to get the video done and get out of there. I know... I'm a bad momma.

4) I'd get her into a lighter bit for ring work and save the shanked bit for shows and show prep rides. She's a long way from show ready. She appears to be trying to stay above it and avoid it.
Since this video was for a possible buyer, I wanted to show her in what she runs in. I normally ride her in a smooth D-ring snaffle without the tie down. I only use the shanked bit for barrel work and to run in. I only use the tie down to run in. I dont use it for barrel work.

5) get rid of the tie down and teach her to soften.
Explained above

6) if you stoop and back I didn't see it but once in the video. Int th time from you rode I would have had my horse stopped and backed about 6 times. That is what I mean by often. I would not complete the length of one wall without a stop/back combo.

This horse needs a lot a lot a lot more slow work. Cantering is fun but if you don't get your foundation solid your gonna have a crash some day. Take your time and get her right.
I'm not trying to make excuses... just wanted to explain why I rode her that way on that particular day and why I chose that equipment. I really appreciate everyones suggestions and will use them.

Here are pictures of me riding her the way I do when its not cold as he!! outside. lol Feel free to critique!



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Old 08-07-2008, 08:39 PM   #14
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Those pics do show her in a better light. I like the bit, she looks far more comfortable with it. Not too keen on the training fork but that's just me.

If you were trying to sell her why would you send someone a video that makes her look so bad? Perhaps you really do not want to sell her.

She's a cutie.

The tie down. I understand that barrel horses wear them for balance but when you are just training you don't need them. They teach the horse nothing and might get in the way. I have seen horses panic when they had their heads tied down.
Again it's me. I do not go for using training devices over good riding on a horse.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:18 PM   #15
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Those pics do show her in a better light. I like the bit, she looks far more comfortable with it. Not too keen on the training fork but that's just me.

If you were trying to sell her why would you send someone a video that makes her look so bad? Perhaps you really do not want to sell her.

She's a cutie.

The tie down. I understand that barrel horses wear them for balance but when you are just training you don't need them. They teach the horse nothing and might get in the way. I have seen horses panic when they had their heads tied down.
Again it's me. I do not go for using training devices over good riding on a horse.
The person I looking to buy was being a pain in the rear. I really didn't want her going to her so I didnt mind the bad riding. I was hoping it would deter her! haha. Plus it was cold out.

As for the tiedown, she never freaks out. I don't have it tight on her. I only have her in one when we are running barrels--and apparently in the video!
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What is her injury? Anything that dictates only light lunging means, to me, that nothing can/should be done to "get her off her forehand", since, IMHO, that requrie more than "light' work

Do a search on impulsion and topline, as well as forehand, and you'll find your answer.
Agreed, its ok if she is travelling around on her forhand.
Most people dont realize its hard work for the horse and it takes time too develop the strength really carry them selves and engage their hindquarters, its not something that is a quick fix.
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Agreed, its ok if she is travelling around on her forhand.
Most people dont realize its hard work for the horse and it takes time too develop the strength really carry them selves and engage their hindquarters, its not something that is a quick fix.
I know it is hard work. Its taken me a year to finally get her to stop stopping and traveling HEAVILY on the forehand... more than she already is. lol.
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