Genetic question...

rottiegirl4ever · 07-02-2009, 02:11 PM

If a Paint dad and Paint mom (who is gaited) have a Paint foal who trots, what is the baby called? Spotted Saddle? Or just a Paint? Or a Paint/TWH? And can a horse be TAUGHT to gait? I always thought no but someone told me different...?

Rumonek · 07-02-2009, 02:46 PM

It's a PINTO, not a paint.
Paint is a registered breed- pinto is a color

ACCphotography · 07-02-2009, 03:00 PM

If both parents are registered Paints, the foal is a Paint. No they can't really be taught to gate if they don't do it at least some naturally.

rottiegirl4ever · 07-02-2009, 05:59 PM

So a pinto what...both parents are grade from what I'm told...

CJnBucksMom · 07-02-2009, 06:04 PM

I might be wrong on this but I think they're only called SSH's (spotted saddle horses) when they're gaited. Pinto would be the correct term for the parents, like someone else said unless they are registered with the APHA they're not paints. Paint is a breed that's founded from it's own foundation stock and then has QH and TB in the lines. Anything gaited wouldn't be registered or registerable as one. My vote is a SSH if it can gait, if not walker/pinto cross lol.

If a horse is not at least somewhat gaited naturally you cannot train them to do the walk, you could probably train them to rack but I'm not sure on that one. It is probably better off not doing that though, if they don't do it naturally the things that would have to be done to get it to gait are something I wouldn't even want to mess with.

FleetFeet · 07-02-2009, 07:11 PM

there is also a pinto registry the PtHA. My filly is registered there and her breeder had her registered with the SHOC, but i feel like PtHA is a lot more legit than SHOC...

Snaffle Bit · 07-02-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rottiegirl4ever

So a pinto what...both parents are grade from what I'm told...

A "pinto" is just a color pattern. They do not have to be grade. You have pinto Miniature Horses, gaited horses, Paso Finos, etc. etc. Pinto just means "it has large spots" (as opposed to appaloosa).

A Paint is registered with the APHA out of approved bloodlines. It technically doesn't even need to have spots to be registered APHA.

The PtHA registered Pintos. A registered Pinto can be grade, or it can be dual-registered. A Saddlebred could be registered Pinto and ASHA for example. So could a Paint, a Thoroughbred, a Miniature Horse, and many others.

07-02-2009, 02:11 PM	#1
rottiegirl4ever Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 399 Images: 31	Genetic question... If a Paint dad and Paint mom (who is gaited) have a Paint foal who trots, what is the baby called? Spotted Saddle? Or just a Paint? Or a Paint/TWH? And can a horse be TAUGHT to gait? I always thought no but someone told me different...? __________________ SCHUTZHUND ROCKS!!! Rottweilers: the BOLD love him, the COWARD fear him, ALL respect him.

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Rumonek Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fulton, MI Posts: 4,572 Images: 20	It's a PINTO, not a paint. Paint is a registered breed- pinto is a color __________________ Rumonek Arabian Horses www.rumonek.weebly.com Breeder of Classic Arabian Beauty I Have Been Gobbled by Thom Turkey!

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ACCphotography Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 10,270 Images: 1	If both parents are registered Paints, the foal is a Paint. No they can't really be taught to gate if they don't do it at least some naturally. __________________ ACC 10,000 posts!!! (achieved on 11/09/09) First green star!!! (achieved on 01/17/09) Mod's nickname for me: "That's Not the Color!" (presented on 04/01/09) "We're not going to Guam are we?"

07-02-2009, 05:59 PM	#4
rottiegirl4ever Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 399 Images: 31	So a pinto what...both parents are grade from what I'm told... __________________ SCHUTZHUND ROCKS!!! Rottweilers: the BOLD love him, the COWARD fear him, ALL respect him.

07-02-2009, 06:04 PM	#5
CJnBucksMom Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tenntucky Posts: 1,109 Images: 127	I might be wrong on this but I think they're only called SSH's (spotted saddle horses) when they're gaited. Pinto would be the correct term for the parents, like someone else said unless they are registered with the APHA they're not paints. Paint is a breed that's founded from it's own foundation stock and then has QH and TB in the lines. Anything gaited wouldn't be registered or registerable as one. My vote is a SSH if it can gait, if not walker/pinto cross lol. If a horse is not at least somewhat gaited naturally you cannot train them to do the walk, you could probably train them to rack but I'm not sure on that one. It is probably better off not doing that though, if they don't do it naturally the things that would have to be done to get it to gait are something I wouldn't even want to mess with. __________________ Official Member of the 'My Husband is Hot Club' 'Real Stallions Wear Pink' Sexy by ChristmasChallenge-r!! Goal: 19 lbs LOST CURRENT: 1 lbs LOST

07-02-2009, 07:11 PM	#6
FleetFeet Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 379 Images: 32	there is also a pinto registry the PtHA. My filly is registered there and her breeder had her registered with the SHOC, but i feel like PtHA is a lot more legit than SHOC...

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