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doublebarr · 07-02-2007, 08:59 AM

I'm wondering if she isn't really a brown, and a parent was mislabled as sorrel when it was a soft brown, because it wasn't the "common" brown color. I haven't looked at her ped, but I will because I'm really currious. Also, if she is a brown, what a find for the genetic research going on!

edited to ad: she also seems to have the pangare around the muzzle and flanks/belly area which could influence the legs. I'm liking brown as an option here, but I could be all wet, LOL.

JBandRio · 07-02-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 3WishesDun

And silver does not affect a red horse, correct?
So a horse can carry the silver gene but it does not express as it does on a black based horse.

If she is indeed a chestnut.... then those smutty looks aren't coming from silver.

Right, silver hides in a redhead.

Haas Horse Farm · 07-02-2007, 03:00 PM

I looked at the pedigree and I only see the possibility of chestnut.

Horsefeathers3 · 07-02-2007, 03:46 PM

I agree with those who said pangare. Around her muzzle and eyes, lower legs, and near her flank the coat color is very light. But if you don't want to have her tested, there's really no way we can know for sure.

Bluwind_Acres · 07-14-2007, 11:45 PM

yeah the weird thing is that I was bathing her the other day and she has some strange dark (black) markings coming in on her back legs. her colt the back of his hind quarters is going black! also if she is a chestnut WITH the silver gene and she has a black mane it may not show on her sorrel base BUT could show if she originally had a black mane and tail seeing as the silver gene does affect the black... so maybe she has more than one or two genes affecting her here. it appears what ever she has going on is VERY dominant cause her colt appears to be heading for the same direction!

thanks
Nikki
Bluwind Acres

Haas Horse Farm · 07-15-2007, 03:16 AM

There is no way your mare would originally have a black mane and tail if she is sorrel... It does not matter what kind of sorrel she is... the silver gene will not show on sorrel.

What color are the offspring she has had and what color is their sire?

Do you have photos of her sire and dam?

Haas Horse Farm · 07-15-2007, 03:40 AM

I really do not think that she is silver. I have searched and searched the horses in the pedigree and in order for her to have the silver gene her sire or dam would have to have it also. I am not seeing it.

I did find a daughter of hers... Pinto horse For Sale in Michigan

Banat · 07-15-2007, 04:58 AM

Are the black hairs that some chestnuts have in their mane and tail affected by the silver gene?

JBandRio · 07-15-2007, 07:46 AM

banat, chestnuts don't have black hairs, ever - they have no gene that makes black pigment. If you see "black" on a chestnut, it's really a dark red. So no, not affected by silver

Banat · 07-15-2007, 10:00 AM

Thanks. Some of those "black" dark red hairs are sure dark.

07-02-2007, 08:59 AM	#11
doublebarr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 9,983 Images: 756	I'm wondering if she isn't really a brown, and a parent was mislabled as sorrel when it was a soft brown, because it wasn't the "common" brown color. I haven't looked at her ped, but I will because I'm really currious. Also, if she is a brown, what a find for the genetic research going on! edited to ad: she also seems to have the pangare around the muzzle and flanks/belly area which could influence the legs. I'm liking brown as an option here, but I could be all wet, LOL. __________________ Not being able to enjoy sarcasm is directly related to not having the ability to come up with sarcastic comments, which in turn creates a feeling of inadequacy, which in turn can spawn a Napoleon complex, that can cause someone to logicise that sarcasm is the humor of the stupid.~~~

07-02-2007, 03:46 PM	#14
Horsefeathers3 Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 2,165 Images: 51	I agree with those who said pangare. Around her muzzle and eyes, lower legs, and near her flank the coat color is very light. But if you don't want to have her tested, there's really no way we can know for sure. __________________ -Chelsea Secretary of the Player Fan Club

07-15-2007, 07:46 AM	#19
JBandRio Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NC Posts: 32,004 Images: 196 Blog Entries: 12	banat, chestnuts don't have black hairs, ever - they have no gene that makes black pigment. If you see "black" on a chestnut, it's really a dark red. So no, not affected by silver __________________ - JB Acres, owned and operated by Dynamite animals. - It's a wonder horses as a whole don't just kill us all and be done with their misery. - Keep your voice soothing and low - even when things get western (buck1173)

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07-14-2007, 11:45 PM	#15
Bluwind_Acres Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wisconsin but Making my Way Back Home to MI Posts: 1,511 Images: 138 Blog Entries: 1	yeah the weird thing is that I was bathing her the other day and she has some strange dark (black) markings coming in on her back legs. her colt the back of his hind quarters is going black! also if she is a chestnut WITH the silver gene and she has a black mane it may not show on her sorrel base BUT could show if she originally had a black mane and tail seeing as the silver gene does affect the black... so maybe she has more than one or two genes affecting her here. it appears what ever she has going on is VERY dominant cause her colt appears to be heading for the same direction! thanks Nikki Bluwind Acres

07-15-2007, 04:58 AM	#18
Banat Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,673 Images: 48	Are the black hairs that some chestnuts have in their mane and tail affected by the silver gene?

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Banat Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,673 Images: 48	Thanks. Some of those "black" dark red hairs are sure dark.