Gelding Effective Immediately?

MissBandit · 02-09-2004, 10:36 AM

When a stallion is gelded, doesn't that mean that his ability to procreate ENDS at that point?

Someone just mentioned that when gelding an older stud (6-10yrs), he will still be able to breed for up to 6 months!

This can't be true...?

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crazi4horses · 02-09-2004, 12:01 PM

i thought it was for a month but i could be wrong...i dont remember cuz the only time we've had to geld i was like 2 or 3...

harli36 · 02-09-2004, 12:05 PM

Hi Miss Bandit. When a horse is gelded the test icles are removed along with the epididymus which is really attached to the test icle. The epididymus is important because it stores the matured sperm until ejacu lation. Therefore if you remove these parts the stud/colt can not produce offspring immediatly. If the job is done correctly. The stud may still act like a stallion because the testosterone from the test icle may take a while to wear off(learned behavior may also play a role)The stud may even still try to breed but he won't be able to get a mare pregnant. I think the person your talking about was wrong unless they were talking about the testosterone's lasting effects. I'm not even really sure how long those effects would last. I wouldn't think 6 months. Does this help?
P.S. I put spaces in the words because I didn't know if they would be edited out.

Dawn · 02-09-2004, 01:50 PM

I have always heard that they're still fertile for 1-4 months.

spyro1 · 02-09-2004, 01:54 PM

I was always told by my vets that they can still impregnate a mare for approx one month after the gelding took place, better to be safe than sorry and keep him away from any mares until a couple of months after the gelding occurs

wink

Lou3 · 02-09-2004, 02:09 PM

ideally the whole reproductive system except the bottom part of the reproductive tract should be removed so the horse should be immediately infertile. If the horse has no testicles he immediately loses the ability to produce sperm so becomes infertile.
better safe than sorry though.
Lou

Dawn · 02-09-2004, 02:25 PM

Oops, my other post is supposed to say 1-4 weeks. Sorry bout that.

Craig · 02-09-2004, 02:53 PM

horses who have gelded recently can and have impregnated mares. it's due to the presence of the ampulla, a sperm reservoir at the end of the vas deferens.the ampulla isn't removed during gelding, so he can potentially settle a mare for up to one month after castration. after that time, the sperm stored are not viable.

Blistering Winds · 02-09-2004, 03:28 PM

The stallion does have sperm still up in the tracts above the epididymus. It takes somewhere around 30 days for a sperm cell to expire. So any sperm that are in the tract aren't removed. Most vets say to keep a horse out of a mare herd until after about 30 days to be sure.

Any gelding that impregnantes a mare after 2 months, still has a testical floating somewhere.

Jumpers · 02-09-2004, 04:01 PM

I've always heard to keep them seperate from mares for several months.

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02-09-2004, 12:01 PM	#2
crazi4horses Senior Member+ Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: First left, then first stall on the right Posts: 4,633 Images: 259	i thought it was for a month but i could be wrong...i dont remember cuz the only time we've had to geld i was like 2 or 3... __________________ Honey --- One man's wrong lead is another man's counter-canter.

02-09-2004, 12:05 PM	#3
harli36 Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: northeastern Pa Posts: 4,096 Images: 42	Hi Miss Bandit. When a horse is gelded the test icles are removed along with the epididymus which is really attached to the test icle. The epididymus is important because it stores the matured sperm until ejacu lation. Therefore if you remove these parts the stud/colt can not produce offspring immediatly. If the job is done correctly. The stud may still act like a stallion because the testosterone from the test icle may take a while to wear off(learned behavior may also play a role)The stud may even still try to breed but he won't be able to get a mare pregnant. I think the person your talking about was wrong unless they were talking about the testosterone's lasting effects. I'm not even really sure how long those effects would last. I wouldn't think 6 months. Does this help? P.S. I put spaces in the words because I didn't know if they would be edited out. __________________ The Morgan Horse! Everything else is just a horse. http://www.morganhorse.com/ *I've been love ♥ struck! x 2!!!!*

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spyro1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Swamp..Home of The SEC Champs~Go Gators Posts: 6,881 Images: 62 Blog Entries: 21	I was always told by my vets that they can still impregnate a mare for approx one month after the gelding took place, better to be safe than sorry and keep him away from any mares until a couple of months after the gelding occurs wink __________________ I used to have a handle on life, but it broke off. Do unto others......

02-09-2004, 02:09 PM	#6
Lou3 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 7,116 Images: 30 Blog Entries: 1	ideally the whole reproductive system except the bottom part of the reproductive tract should be removed so the horse should be immediately infertile. If the horse has no testicles he immediately loses the ability to produce sperm so becomes infertile. better safe than sorry though. Lou __________________ Save the Earth . . . it's the only planet with chocolate FFFL

02-09-2004, 01:50 PM	#4
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,224 Images: 1283	I have always heard that they're still fertile for 1-4 months.

02-09-2004, 02:25 PM	#7
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 29,224 Images: 1283	Oops, my other post is supposed to say 1-4 weeks. Sorry bout that.

02-09-2004, 02:53 PM	#8
Craig Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 272	horses who have gelded recently can and have impregnated mares. it's due to the presence of the ampulla, a sperm reservoir at the end of the vas deferens.the ampulla isn't removed during gelding, so he can potentially settle a mare for up to one month after castration. after that time, the sperm stored are not viable. __________________ Yesterday, I was a Vet! Today, I'm a Vet! Tomorrow, I'll probably still be a Vet! So little room for improvement! "GREEN BEER, LOTS OF CHEER, SLAINTE!"

02-09-2004, 03:28 PM	#9
Blistering Winds Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Augusta, Kansas Posts: 31,466 Images: 793 Blog Entries: 16	The stallion does have sperm still up in the tracts above the epididymus. It takes somewhere around 30 days for a sperm cell to expire. So any sperm that are in the tract aren't removed. Most vets say to keep a horse out of a mare herd until after about 30 days to be sure. Any gelding that impregnantes a mare after 2 months, still has a testical floating somewhere. __________________ 20 lb club: New year Start: 175 Goal: 130 Current: 158 Total loss this year 17 lbs.

02-09-2004, 04:01 PM	#10
Jumpers Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,216	I've always heard to keep them seperate from mares for several months.

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