[red00jeep]

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

wording things politey helps ya' know

I think a bit of introspection would really help you out.

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

you are an awfully rude person. i never said i was a perfect rider...I SAID SHE HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE I GOT HER which is why they got rid of her. so YES...this problem IS the horses...she came with it.

And yet, you have failed to solve it, which is obviously going to make someone who hasn't seen the situation question the dynamics of the relationship you have when riding your horse.

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

I am trying to help her and was asking a simple advice question. your jumping to conclusions when really don't know me or this horse...

... which is why I asked questions for clarification. And, uhm, nobody on here knows you or your horse, yet I can confidently say that these horsemen and women can accurately come up with ideas that can potentially bring about solutions to your problem, if you were willing to listen and perhaps try the advice.

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

other than jeep i am sorry if i offended anyone. i wasn't trying to be disregarding of helpful advice. thanks to the rest of you for trying to help out in a civilized manner.

Hahahah, noooo comment.

[JazzyJockey]

And yet, you have failed to solve it, which is obviously going to make someone who hasn't seen the situation question the dynamics of the relationship you have when riding your horse.


I have had her about a month Super thanks for your amazing advice! lol

[red00jeep]

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

I have had her about a month Super thanks for your amazing advice! lol

Well, what kind of progress have you made? Has she done this since day one, or did she begin with bolting, rearing, or anything extremely dramatic?

Your first post was a bit vague, perhaps you could receive more relevant advice with some additional details?

[tlwidener]

Rarely does a bigger bit solve anything.

[jedy]

Did anybody asked yet how is she kept?
Turn out/ feed wise?

To the OP:

I suspect the rider could have a lot to do with her reactions. If you sincerely feel that you are relaxed and are riding her properly, and an objective 3rd party agrees, then it is obviously time to go back to basics. Do you know how to ground drive? Have access to a round pen? What are her ground manners like?

Please read it again. These are QUESTIONS not accusations, and they're not worded agressively. Note Red referrs to RIDER not to YOU.

Pitty for valuable thread to be over just like that, it could be very informative. Very interesting question you've asked.

[xlilxonex]

Wow, calm down and listen to people. Spouting off rudely and getting defensive over NOTHING will not solve this problem..

Any way you can get someone to video tape you riding your horse? It'd help us give a more accurate view of the situation.

[jedy]

As a side note, and as a food for thought, I have to say, I envy you.

i am a fine rider

I have never said that about myself for the last 20 odd years, and I strongly suuspect I never will. At the moment I'm certainly not a fine rider, but I do strive to learn enough for someone else (reputable) call me that one day. And learning I never cease, and regardless of what others think of my riding, that is one strenght I know I do posses.

[pittmd]

My QH gleding was the same way as your mare. GO GO GO. Ask for a walk on a loose rein and it went like walk 3 steps, trot, full gallop. In my case I was part of the problem. My legs were not still and I was nervious and He got mixed signals. I had to start with passenger lessons. Letting him go where ever he felt like in my round pen and correcting for speed violations doing what JB recomended. Every time his gate was not what I asked for one rein stop, bending, circles. When you give a correction DO IT. Get your point accross and release. I might add to make sure he flexes laterally with very little preasure on the ground prior to doing the one rein stops.

I hope I did not offend you by offering such basic advice but speaking as a person who had the same problem I know the above methods work.

Good luck!

[JBandRio]

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

of course i own her,

It was a valid question, since you only said "One of the mares I'm working with" which really does imply it's not your horse

i do circles with this mare,but she gets frusterated and again starts to do half-rears and snorting.she has never done a full buck yet on me,but i wouldn't put it past her. she isn't a dangerous horse...

If she's doing half-rears, she can't be doing too fast If she's doing half-rears, she isn't forward *enough*. I'm confused here If she's slowed down enough to "half rear" when you put her on a circle to get her to slow down in the first place, what is going on that gets her frustrated?

she just want to run,and run,and run,and run,and run! she would be PERFECT for endurance racing...too bad i want to do dressage,right

A horse who just wants to run and run would be a terrible endurance horse. Endurance horses have to be just as obedient as a Dressage horse. The endurance horse who is mentally fired up can very easily get himself physically worn out just trying to maintain the requested gait/speed.

so no one else agrees with trying a twisted bit for a little while and seeing if it makes any difference???

Absolutely not, because it's just about guaranteed 1 of 2 things will happen
1 - she'll be afraid enough of the bit that she'll constantly back off the pressure and then you have no control at all - ever tried to deal with a horse who evades the bit by just literally tucking chin to chest?
2 - she'll get into the same behavior pattern she's in now and then what - twisted wire with a shank?

[angie j]

Originally Posted by JazzyJockey

i have corrected this problem in a greenbroke horse before with the circling actually......she just want to run,and run,and run,and run,and run! she would be PERFECT for endurance racing

so no one else agrees with trying a twisted bit for a little while and seeing if it makes any difference???

THe problem isn't "she WANTS to run".. it's a lack of attention to her handler/rider. The horse needs to give you it's attention before it will listen to your requests to adjust speeds. As was mentioned, go back in the training process to 'giving to the bit' and getting the horses 'mental focus'... from the ground, then on top.

A different bit will get you some attention... but probably not 'positive' attention.