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*******DOSING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND ERROR CAN RESULT IN SEIZURES OR DEATH... NOT FOR THOSE ...
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    Frontline Plus--more cost effective and accurate treatment for all cats/dogs.

    *******DOSING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND ERROR CAN RESULT IN SEIZURES OR DEATH... NOT FOR THOSE WHO ARE POOR AT MATH!!!!!******* IF YOU CHOOSE TO TREAT THIS WAY, AS MOST RESCUES, SHELTERS, AND SPAY/NEUTER CLINICS DO.. PLEASE TRIPLE CHECK ALL MATH UNTIL YOU ARE COMFORTABLE IN DOSING!!!!!******

    I typed this up in another thread, and decided since I put the effort in, to share with everyone. Being responsible for your own dosing is not for everyone, please be very careful if you choose to take my advice.

    Dog flea products can and DO kill cats. DO NOT USE HARTZ OR BIOSPOT EVER on anything.. it just does not work and it is dangerous.

    HOWEVER, HERE IS THE SECRET FRONTLINE DOES NOT WANT TO GET OUT!!!!!!!!

    Drumroll please..

    Frontline Plus for 89-132 lb dogs can be used on all dogs/cats. For 8week old kittens, and for 132lb ginormous dogs. The cat and dog formulas ARE slightly different, however it is actually the CAT FORMULA that is more concentrated, it has 3% more "s-methoprene" which is the insect growth regulator used.

    The key is DOSAGE. It is 0.0304545ml per pound.
    Frontline Plus for Dogs is available as:
    0.67 ml applicators for use on dogs and puppies up to 22 lbs
    1.34 ml applicators for dogs 23-44 lbs
    2.68 ml applicators for dogs 45-88 lbs
    4.02 ml applicators for dogs 89-132 lbs

    If you take the higher end weight, and multiply it by 0.030454545, you get the ml's used. (22 x 0.03ml= 0.67ml) (44x 0.03ml = 1.34ml) and so on.


    NOW- the cat/kitten formula, which is stronger, you'd think would be more regulated. The amount in all cat/kitten applicators is 0.5ml. Which means its dosed for the HIGH end, a 15 lb cat. So, when you put frontline plus for cats on your 2lb kitten, you're giving him over 7x the amount he needs.

    The weaker concenrated dog formula works just fine on cats and kittens.

    Dose all cats, dogs, and puppies and kittens of age, with Frontline Plus for Dogs at 0.0304545ml per pound of body weight..... and all of your pets will be flea and tick free. It is OK to round up to the closest hundredth.. (you get 0.065 after calculating, you can round up to 0.07) After all, one hundredth is way more accurate than what is in the applicators.

    Okay, now the fun part! One applicator for a 89-132lb dog(4.02ml) can treat 13 ten pound cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I did not want to type all of that up, but the more I thought about it, the more its better for animals in general if people actually know. It makes the product more affordable for those of us that have 5 lifer dogs, 5 foster dogs, 3 inside cats, 2 barn cats.... and so on!


    So, make sure you have an accurate and current weight each time you treat, and go get yourself a 1ml oral**do not give orally, apply in same area as instructed on package** (sure or exact dose) syringe for cats or small dogs, OR a 3ml syringe for medium dogs (and if you have a large dog, well, just use the applicator lol!) and some:

    HAPPY FLEA & TICK TREATING!!!!



    ******This method and dosing is for FRONTLINE PLUS only, at the CURRENT FORMULA. Please do not read this a year from now and treat, as things may change!******
    Last edited by ChevyRider; 11-17-2011 at 10:49 AM.

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    I guess I should add that the best way to store it is to get a good childproof liquid container, that is big enough to hold the amount that you choose to keep around. Just cut open the applicators, and pour them all into said container. Make sure to label it!

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    You need to put in caps that just because using ORAL syringe, does not mean the dose is given in the mouth. It is to be put on skin ONLY.

    I use glass vials with rubber stopper tops. And a 1 ML syringe with needle to pull up solution, then remove needle and apply to back of neck between shoulders.

    ALSO, need to point out that not all flea treatments can be done this way. Advantage will KILL cats, period, no matter how small the dose is, if it is the dog one.

    And to never keep the needle on while you are attempting to apply the treatment, as it is too easy to poke the animal with the needle.

    But saves tons of money.
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    Ohh! Thanks for posting this. If frontline safe for dogs? I always heard about the side effects of this stuff and how it can cause organ failure.
    All I pay my psychiatrist is the cost of feed and hay, and he'll listen to me any day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meljean View Post
    You need to put in caps that just because using ORAL syringe, does not mean the dose is given in the mouth. It is to be put on skin ONLY.

    I use glass vials with rubber stopper tops. And a 1 ML syringe with needle to pull up solution, then remove needle and apply to back of neck between shoulders.

    ALSO, need to point out that not all flea treatments can be done this way. Advantage will KILL cats, period, no matter how small the dose is, if it is the dog one.

    And to never keep the needle on while you are attempting to apply the treatment, as it is too easy to poke the animal with the needle.

    But saves tons of money.
    Added the oral syringe plug.. I already have in there that its for Frontline Plus only.. You didn't read the whole thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfinggetsmeup View Post
    Ohh! Thanks for posting this. If frontline safe for dogs? I always heard about the side effects of this stuff and how it can cause organ failure.
    It is made for dogs =] ..I do not want to get into whether its safe or not safe, or works vs not working.. This thread is more for people that are currently paying $50 on a 3 months supply of Frontline Plus for cats, or small dogs... when they could be paying much less.

    If you do not currently have a flea treatment for your dog, I am going to take the responsible route, and suggest working with your regular veterinary care provider in finding the best possible fit for you.

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    I have trifectus, which is a feed through. I've just heard nasty things about spot on treatments. Just wondering the real story or if you have had any issues. I'll save this question for a later thread then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfinggetsmeup View Post
    I have trifectus, which is a feed through. I've just heard nasty things about spot on treatments. Just wondering the real story or if you have had any issues. I'll save this question for a later thread then.
    You misread if you think I was being rude! I did not mean it that way. I just do not feel comfortable telling people whether or not it is safe, as I am not a scientist or veterinarian.

    I have used Frontline Plus for years without incident. I also switch it up and use Vectra 3D on my dogs sometimes(I do not dose this on my own, I use it as packaged). It has never failed me =] Although the feed through stuff has always interested me! I live in the Poconos, and the ticks are absolutely horrible. Certain times during the year, we can walk outside for 5 minutes and have 5 ticks crawling around. The Frontline Plus kills them. The Vectra 3D actually kills and REPELS them to some degree. I love both products!

    As a vet tech, I have seen the results of cheap spot on treatment. Sad to say but it happens so often, we used to call them "shake and bake" cats. They'd come in seizuring, first thing to do is get them bathed in warm water and then wrapped in a blanket(provided the flea treatment was applied very recently(hour or two).

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    Oh I did not think you were rude at all. I just did not want to derail your thread. My cat used the advantage and had kidney failure which the vet thinks was a cause of it. I just was wondering about the dogs. I think i'll try it because the ticks are so bad here too.
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    Frontline (fipronil) is also the medication of choice for keeping the mange from Clydesdale's feather. If you think it's expensive to dose a cat, try spraying 500cc's (125ccs per leg)
    on EACH HORSE. a 250ml bottle is $33 at the vets. I have found that Fipronil is also used to kill termites- used in a 9.2% solution, the exteminator dilutes it with 25 gallons of water (the 20 ozbottle). I have a call in to my vet to see if I can use it on the horses. There is no other active ingredient in it than fipronil, so am hoping i can use it. to get the comparable percentage in frontline the 20 oz bottle would make 8 gallons- the cost would be $55 for 8 gallons (and I'd easily use 8 gallons in a year) a huge savings.

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    I dose it out for clients who take in foster animals sometimes. If done right, it works well! I prefer to do it with Vectra, but that's another story.
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