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    I just finished riding my boy and noticed he was foaming at the mouth. Is this a good thing? We spent alot more time trying to get him "on the bit" than normal, so could that have been the reason?
    Also, how can you tell if your horse is on the bit or just putting their head in and evading it? I think he might have just been evading it, so when this happens do I just push him on with my legs to get him moving into the bit? He wasn't slowing down at all, just putting his head in.
    It's quite hard to tell when theres noone there who can help from the outside. I should be getting lessons after xmas though.
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    Foam in generally good.

    maybe set a camera up to video bits of your ride when you are in its view. Give you an idea at least.
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    Awesome.
    I would have before but the spotlight isn't very good and neither is my camera, lol. I will definately be getting one this week to get some tips. Hopefully i'm not too bad, lol.
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    I have always heard that foaming was good, but recently i found an article which states other wise.

    Myth #3 - "Foaming at the Mouth" is a Good Sign, When a Horse is Being Ridden.
    Again, also false. Most people take the foaming at the mouth to mean that the horse has a moist and responsive mouth. In reality, all this means is that the horse cannot swallow his saliva. Think about it - you see this mainly in Dressage horses, who are ridden with constant contact. With constant pressure on the bit, restricting the tongue, the horse cannot swallow at all. In many cases, this causes the horse to tense up his tongue and jaw, which in turn causes the horse to tense up his neck, then shoulders, then back, etc.

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    Foaming is good
    When they lick a lot or foam it generally means they are happy doing whatever they are doing.
    My horse, when I barrel race him, licks AND foams a lot. and i dont get in his mouth at all. i use my legs only to steer and stay on. so yeah..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RKB View Post
    I have always heard that foaming was good, but recently i found an article which states other wise.

    Myth #3 - "Foaming at the Mouth" is a Good Sign, When a Horse is Being Ridden.
    Again, also false. Most people take the foaming at the mouth to mean that the horse has a moist and responsive mouth. In reality, all this means is that the horse cannot swallow his saliva. Think about it - you see this mainly in Dressage horses, who are ridden with constant contact. With constant pressure on the bit, restricting the tongue, the horse cannot swallow at all. In many cases, this causes the horse to tense up his tongue and jaw, which in turn causes the horse to tense up his neck, then shoulders, then back, etc.

    Would it not be excessive foaming? Lipstick is meant to be good?

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    This makes me curious, too. Often the horse I ride will foam after canter work (not excessively - just around the edges). And usually in canter work because that is his weak point and he is very unbalanced in it and falls onto the forehand a lot. I find if we've been working on a dressage lesson and he does NOT do canter work, there is little or no foaming. However he does have a really soft mouth and usually at the start of the lesson when I first ask for contact there is licking and chewing and acceptance. So I'm confused! I always thought the "lipstick" was a good thing too. Maybe he gets it after canter work because I really have to use half-halts a lot to balance him. Also one lesson he'd be ridden for 2 hours previously, so when we were doing some cantering at the end he was very tired and leaning on my hands a lot. He foamed then too. But it wasn't because he was soft - quite the opposite!

    I think there are probably a few more factors involved than just "softening"? Maybe it is how much rein aids are used or how direct they are. Maybe that's why Western horses can accept the bit but they rarely foam, because contact is minimal.

    Just musing! x]

    Found this - the other side of the "argument" so to speak.

    There is a saliva duct in the throat latch area of a horse (behind the jaw, where the head attaches to the neck) and when a horse is tense or carrying their head incorrectly the duct does not work adequately, creating a dry mouth. A moist mouth is preferred and actually helps the bit work better. When a horse relaxes and rounds and lets the head just relax off the poll, then that saliva producing duct flows freely and creates the saliva which forms into foam as a horse mouths the bit. Foaming at the mouth can be a sign of a relaxed, happy horse and should not be an issue of concern unless a horse does it when not working or exhibits other unusual symptoms.
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    Lipstick is good. Excessive (as in all over chest and legs) is not.
    As for evading the bit, I *think* (and I very well may be wrong) the only way he could evade if he was in the proper position would be to open his mouth. If he opens his mouth, you could flash him and that will prevent that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarFromOver View Post
    If he opens his mouth, you could flash him and that will prevent that.
    How is whipping open a trench coat and blinding him with the sight of her nakedness going to help????
















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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester View Post
    How is whipping open a trench coat and blinding him with the sight of her nakedness going to help????





    I had to do it.
    LMAO I didn't even think of that!!! Good one!
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