Find a Stud

Nes · 10-09-2005, 06:59 PM

I'm looking for a cremello stud either in the area or AI for this mare /\ (who is rapidly approaching likely mine!).

She is an Anglo-Hispano, and I would like a registerable, cremello, jumper/hunter prospect foal.

or:

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For those of you with too much time on you hands I'm looking for a stallion to breed too a:

15.1 Hh
Palomino (throws palominos to bays so assuming homozygous)
LusitanoX

that would preduce a:

taller foal
jumper prospect*
preferably cremello
and I'd like to be able to register the foal whether or not they are lusitano

*no necessary, but I would PREFER a hunter/jumper/eventing prospect just because that is my discipline, in the case I decided to keep the foal which is likely if they turned a cremello.

ready... set... goo!!!

(I'd actually really appreciate it - I've been looking myself but I'm not sure what I want)

OOOH! and they need to be very very close to Ottawa or AI & I'd prefer under $1000.

Although if you find something AMAZING around $1500 let me know (and yes guarunteed gold is beautifull - but I think I'd need an HGS discount - hint, hint

)

Nes.

Thought I might have better luck on a slower moving board if anyone has suggestions

I'm a little lost in a sea of beautiful stallions, and as I've never even considered breeding and raising my own horse (heck 4 months ago I was going back to do a Bsc. not having riden in 6 years!) so I'm not even so sure what I should be looking for when there are SO many options.

It's very important to me that although this foal is sort of a "project" that they be a very high quality animal as there is no point in breeding for the sake of breeding.

Nes.

Sandra-A1 · 10-09-2005, 07:05 PM

If the mare is a registered pure Lusitano why not breed her to another Lusitano/Andalusian?
Lusitanos can jump!!!...have you not heard of the Luso stallion Novilheiro?

Nes · 10-09-2005, 07:08 PM

which one!! there are SOOO many to choose from!!

I'm considering all lusitanos, andalusion, thoroughbred, warmblood, sportpony suggestions and stallions

The only thing I would balk at is a quarter horse or paint - they are beautiful animals in there own right but I think I would prefer a lighter coloured,and more... I donno, sporty, foal at least as her first babe for me.

I found this beautiful lipizzaner, but I was concerned he is too heavy for what I am trying to bred for: http://www.equine.com/stallions/dsho...horseid=794554

nes.

Sandra-A1 · 10-09-2005, 07:13 PM

Do you know this mare's bloodlines?

Nes · 10-09-2005, 07:26 PM

Yes, but well I'm not quite sure who these horses are
http://www.equine.com/horses/pedigre...horseid=872202

Nes.

Sandra-A1 · 10-09-2005, 07:27 PM

The best thing to do is to not limit yourself to stallion just in your area. Your country maybe, but not just those around you...unless you happen to live near numerous breeders of top Andalusians.

I would look on the IALHA Website at their list of breeders and start my search there:IALHA Breeders

I would visit as many of them as possible and make sure to take along excellent conformation photos of the mare as well as an extended pedigree as possible...at least 5 generations.
I would look at the stallions and talk to the owners about what you are hoping to produce using this mare.

Sandra-A1 · 10-09-2005, 07:36 PM

That pedigree is no help.
The ad says she is Veiga though.
Do you know anything about the Veiga bloodlines?
In all honesty I seriously would look more into this more...you just do NOT find a quality purebred Luso mare at that price.
Bargains like that just do not stay on the web for long...most registered Luso/Andi mares sell for $12,000 (US) A few for $10,000..the really young ones maybe for $8,000....NEVER for $2,500!
I would have to question why this mare is $2,500.
That is too cheap...PERIOD!

Nes · 10-09-2005, 07:42 PM

I've been looking for the stallion all over the web and have been unable to find any information about him, I doubt the owner will be able to be any more detailed on the mare's pedigree until I can talk to herin person.

I'm fine with importing the good stuff as long as it's not going to be overly expensive, i'm striving for under $1000 so I can pay for it myself

Feel like going thru the IALHA site and finding me the perfect cremello boyfriend for her?/rofl - I do appreciate the link though Sandra especially since this is all your faul for introducing me to Mr. Pogue and his pretty animals!!! Who's work, btw, made me decide to start raising my own little babe

You're a homewreker ms. sandra!!! you're a homewreker

/rofl

I know that she is not a VERY high quality animal - in fact she's at this price because she is a broodmare alone (current pelvic injury, a bad bump to the head and a pulled suspensory in her younger days - all of which is non-genetic and which the owner has been very upfront about), her offspring are unproved (and in some cases, unbroke - but beautiful) - however her conformation is such that I feel she would produce a very fine athelete for me.

She's certainly not going to give me the next Novil. that's why I'm looking at the less expensive stallions.

Nes.

Sandra-A1 · 10-09-2005, 07:47 PM

I really am sorry...I do not intend to crush your dreams...but you really need to check this horse out. I would wonder why she is not selling this mare for more? I do not care how desperate she might be.
If the mare is breeding problem free and is a registered purebred Lusitano Mare...then the owner would be able to sell her for a LOT more, with no problem, to any Andalusian/Lusitano breeder in the USA & Canada.
Something just isn't right....a purebred Lusitano Mare (of color) for only $2,500......why????

Appylvr · 10-09-2005, 07:51 PM

I have never seen an Andalusian or Lusitano for that cheap. Not even foals. There might be something seriously wrong with her... just like Sandra A-1 said... not that cheap.

10-09-2005, 07:05 PM	#2
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,419 Images: 225	If the mare is a registered pure Lusitano why not breed her to another Lusitano/Andalusian? Lusitanos can jump!!!...have you not heard of the Luso stallion Novilheiro? __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore

10-09-2005, 07:13 PM	#4
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,419 Images: 225	Do you know this mare's bloodlines? __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore Last edited by Sandra-A1; 10-09-2005 at 07:27 PM.

10-09-2005, 07:27 PM	#6
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,419 Images: 225	The best thing to do is to not limit yourself to stallion just in your area. Your country maybe, but not just those around you...unless you happen to live near numerous breeders of top Andalusians. I would look on the IALHA Website at their list of breeders and start my search there:IALHA Breeders I would visit as many of them as possible and make sure to take along excellent conformation photos of the mare as well as an extended pedigree as possible...at least 5 generations. I would look at the stallions and talk to the owners about what you are hoping to produce using this mare. __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore

10-09-2005, 07:36 PM	#7
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,419 Images: 225	That pedigree is no help. The ad says she is Veiga though. Do you know anything about the Veiga bloodlines? In all honesty I seriously would look more into this more...you just do NOT find a quality purebred Luso mare at that price. Bargains like that just do not stay on the web for long...most registered Luso/Andi mares sell for $12,000 (US) A few for $10,000..the really young ones maybe for $8,000....NEVER for $2,500! I would have to question why this mare is $2,500. That is too cheap...PERIOD! __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore

10-09-2005, 07:47 PM	#9
Sandra-A1 Senior Member+ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,419 Images: 225	I really am sorry...I do not intend to crush your dreams...but you really need to check this horse out. I would wonder why she is not selling this mare for more? I do not care how desperate she might be. If the mare is breeding problem free and is a registered purebred Lusitano Mare...then the owner would be able to sell her for a LOT more, with no problem, to any Andalusian/Lusitano breeder in the USA & Canada. Something just isn't right....a purebred Lusitano Mare (of color) for only $2,500......why???? __________________ "It is our choices Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." ~Dumbledore

10-09-2005, 07:08 PM	#3
Nes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kemptville Posts: 778 Images: 39	which one!! there are SOOO many to choose from!! I'm considering all lusitanos, andalusion, thoroughbred, warmblood, sportpony suggestions and stallions The only thing I would balk at is a quarter horse or paint - they are beautiful animals in there own right but I think I would prefer a lighter coloured,and more... I donno, sporty, foal at least as her first babe for me. I found this beautiful lipizzaner, but I was concerned he is too heavy for what I am trying to bred for: http://www.equine.com/stallions/dsho...horseid=794554 nes.

10-09-2005, 07:26 PM	#5
Nes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kemptville Posts: 778 Images: 39	Yes, but well I'm not quite sure who these horses are http://www.equine.com/horses/pedigre...horseid=872202 Nes.

10-09-2005, 07:42 PM	#8
Nes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kemptville Posts: 778 Images: 39	I've been looking for the stallion all over the web and have been unable to find any information about him, I doubt the owner will be able to be any more detailed on the mare's pedigree until I can talk to herin person. I'm fine with importing the good stuff as long as it's not going to be overly expensive, i'm striving for under $1000 so I can pay for it myself Feel like going thru the IALHA site and finding me the perfect cremello boyfriend for her?/rofl - I do appreciate the link though Sandra especially since this is all your faul for introducing me to Mr. Pogue and his pretty animals!!! Who's work, btw, made me decide to start raising my own little babe You're a homewreker ms. sandra!!! you're a homewreker /rofl I know that she is not a VERY high quality animal - in fact she's at this price because she is a broodmare alone (current pelvic injury, a bad bump to the head and a pulled suspensory in her younger days - all of which is non-genetic and which the owner has been very upfront about), her offspring are unproved (and in some cases, unbroke - but beautiful) - however her conformation is such that I feel she would produce a very fine athelete for me. She's certainly not going to give me the next Novil. that's why I'm looking at the less expensive stallions. Nes.

10-09-2005, 07:51 PM	#10
Appylvr Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 6,987 Images: 307	I have never seen an Andalusian or Lusitano for that cheap. Not even foals. There might be something seriously wrong with her... just like Sandra A-1 said... not that cheap.

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