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I also agree with jumpergirl. I would never consider Cathalido as a hunter type sire. ...
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    I also agree with jumpergirl. I would never consider Cathalido as a hunter type sire. Not at all ... ... there is nothing about him that says "hunter" in the slightest bit ...

    Cunningham I adore! Apiro needs the right mare bred to him IMO and early word back on Cabardino is that his foals are not very "user friendly" nor "amateur friendly" either - huge components in producing hunters for the vast majority of the buying market which is amateurs and juniors ... He is a phenomenal jumper - probably one of the best out there right now IMO, I am not keen on his conformation at all



    Maybe its a bad picture or a bad angle but based on this, I dont like his hind end at all ...

    Im still waiting to see the youngsters that Bliss MF is producing in his first crop. I still like that young stallion a lot ...
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    I like Redwine a lot.
    And Leatherdale Farm has produced a couple hunters out of His Highness. But he is a dressage horse so I always thought that was kind of strange. Many are actually grand children of him I believe.



    But he's dead now

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    I believe that while Rotspon / Redwine line is very much dressage orientated - right? And it seems like a lot of the pure hunter breeders are gravitating that way to get the terrific movement on their foals

    And really and truly - just because their connections were involved in dressage and not jumper or hunter, doesnt mean a lot of these top dressage stallions COULDNT jump - its just the direction and career path they were pointed in instead ...
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    Apparently I have caffeine issues in the morning and keeping my stally's straight. Two different threads at the same time! I agree with Cathalido not being a hunter sire. Cunningham is very nice. Cabardino is a wonderful jumper. Ah, that's better. Sorry about that.

    Apiro seems to give his offspring the general idea of his front end, he occasionally throws in some legs and it seems the back end goes to the mare. There's something about the mares with a good/heavy amount of bone that he does great on. I hadn't heard about Cabardino's kids.

    I somehow missed Bliss MF, but he might be going on my list. Are any of his foals on the ground yet?

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    An interesting list of stallions so far. To add to the discussion:
    I am wondering what criteria people use to determine Hunter Stallion.

    One qualification certainly would be that the stallion had himself competed successfully in the hunter ring, A Circuit and at 3'6" and over.
    I'm wondering how many of the stallions listed so far have done this?

    And since the most important marker of a successful stallion is whether his offspring can actually perform, another factor determining whether a stallion is a Hunter stallion is whether he has actually produced offspring who are successful in the hunter ring, again A Circuit, and preferably at 3'6" +.
    Again,I'm wondering how many of the stallions listed have successful hunter progeny?

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    Well, a lot of it is opinion. I don't think a few shows with a pro at 3'6" shows me all that I want to see from a hunter stallion, performance wise. Ideally (and that's a sticky word) I want to see that the horse can campaign and be champion or reserve at many shows thoroughout a season. That's a lot of wear and tear on a horse, mentally and physically, and I want to see that they can do it. I also think an ammy career is a huge plus. Of course, a stallion doesn't NEED to do any of those things to be a successful hunter sire.

    As far as answering your question (ignoring that the word "successfully" is fully open to one's interpretation, and listing any with show results)

    One qualification certainly would be that the stallion had himself competed successfully in the hunter ring, A Circuit and at 3'6" and over.

    Redwine
    Balta Czar
    Westporte
    All the Gold
    Just the Best
    More than Luck
    Cunningham
    Acorino
    As Always
    Popeye K
    Cabardino
    Jupiter
    Milous de Fontaine
    Palladio
    Alla Czar
    Apiro
    Cabalito

    he has actually produced offspring who are successful in the hunter ring, again A Circuit, and preferably at 3'6" +.

    offspring with results at 3'6"+
    Rosenthal
    Balou
    Davignport
    Romantic Star
    All the Gold
    Just the Best
    Popeye K
    Jupiter (not sure on that one)
    Jones Hall
    Alla Czar
    Dacaprio
    Don Alfredo
    Pablo
    Cabalito

    I might have missed or two along the way, but I'm tired of looking. Several stallions just aren't old enough yet to have offspring in the 3'6"+ divisions.
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    Hasn't Apiro competed and won in the working hunters at 4'?

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    Yep, you're right. I just didn't make it past page 4 of the thread before my attention span ran out. Will edit and update.

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    One qualification certainly would be that the stallion had himself competed successfully in the hunter ring, A Circuit and at 3'6" and over.
    Sorry. Disagree 100% and whose "qualification" is this - yours and yours alone?

    I would use Rotspon in a heartbeat to produce a hunter foal out of Faux Finish or Nightlight. He has never competed in ANY hunter class, let alone at the 3'6" or higher level, but he is a lovely type with phenomenal movement that produces the ultimate, beautiful hunter type and so far from what I have seen of his offspring, they are going to be equally as successful in the hunter ring as they have been in the dressage arena ...

    I would use Balou in a heartbeat - he has never competed in ANY hunter class that I know of ... Couleur Rubin is another one - lovely type that jumps in perfect hunter form and cadence, but never seen a hunter ring. Ijssalmeer (or however you spell his name!) is another one who has competed up to GP dressage, never in a hunter or jumper ring, but his jumper scores at his inspection were fabulous - him I'd use in a heartbeat again to produce a flashy hunter type

    Lyzelle- Bliss is a 3 year old this year (or maybe 4???) and his first foals have just hit the ground this year so he is one I very much want to breed one of my homebred mares to in the coming years ...
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    Also, Cabalito hasn't been mentioned but he belongs on both lists.

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