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    How to Fatten Up a skinny horse without special feed? *UPDATE PAGE 5*

    OK... so... I've posted a thread or two about this horse before... but I've been gone for a year.

    Just got back... he's as skinny as all get out. I don't know much about teeth, but I opened up his mouth... one tooth is extremely sharp right next to the cheek? It looks broken... but I don't know much about teeth and stuff... so I could be very very wrong. My guess is that he's not able to eat as much due to teeth issues, and he could have underlying issues. As for what... I have no clue... I'm unable to contact a vet (I'm going to keep trying though), and his owners have had one out... just to look at his legs and feet (which are HORRID looking... I'll get pictures up tomorrow... they're on my phone and I can't find a USB cord)... but not much else. So... there very well could be an underlying issue, but from what I know he's not prone to colic... and... for the most part... my guess is that he's not getting enough fattening food.

    He IS being fed. More than the other horses. 70% roughage hay (not sure what type, will find out. Definitely not alfalfa or some other quality hay), 30% oats. He gets about half a square bale twice a day. Unsure of the weight... but the square bale is about the standard I guess of square bale sizes... I dunno... don't know too much about feed itself... just bare basics (hence the reason I'm asking on here!).

    Whenever anyone asks which horse is the "best", this guy (Pekky, or Press Time) is the one they always say is the best. He's not exactly the prettiest horse. Never was. He has a big ol' head, ewe neck that has always been on the thin side, and has immunity issues, so whenever ANY of the horses got sick... from anything... he usually got it too. (and that could be another reason why he's lost a ton of weight and isn't putting it on again). Unlike one of the other horses that was extremely thin (and I have no idea what happened to her), they keep trying with him... but they don't exactly know what to do.

    I was hoping... that I could get some help on here. I'll ask about whether or not he's been dewormed, and try and see if I can get him on a regular schedule with that. (get ALL of the horses on a regular schedule with that... it'll be hard though... I'll have to spend some time translating some pages of my horse books... so they can see it's not just the "crazy american" saying stuff like this).

    But... what are things that can fatten up a skinny horse? Forget about mentioning special feeds or ration balancers or anything. Can't find 'em here. Closest place to get something like that would be Hungary... or Greece... and there's no way they're going to be willing to shell out that much money to get them here. Nor am I willing.

    So... what are things that you can get at a all-purpose feed store (VERY basic stuff), grocery store, or some other basic store. Please remember that this is SERBIA, not the US. There are a ton of things that you can find in the US... that just don't exist here. I'm willing to put down the money to buy him his own "special" food so that he can gain the weight he needs to... but... I just don't know what to get. Corn? Beet pulp (if I can find it here)?


    If you have ANY more questions... please ask them. I'm not hiding anything... and this horse doesn't belong to me... but the owners are willing to try anything... because they do love this horse... but they just are at their wits end... and have been saying for the past two years that he's just "old". At 14... it's not a valid excuse.

    PLEASE help... thanks.
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    I have no clue what I would do without a special feed. I would possibly just say google it. But before trying anything post it up here just to ensure its legit. There are some smart people here. Good luck!
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    I would start with getting his teeth done. Free feed good quality hay and add soaked beet pulp if you can get it. Corn or Soybean oil as a top dressing should be able to be found in a grocery store.
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    Teeth can't be done. Equine Dentists just don't really exist here in Serbia. Trust me... I've asked a ton of people AND done some googling. MAYBE things have changed in a year... but I doubt it. Will still ask around, but the vets don't do it... nor does anyone else... at least within a two or three hour radius.
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    Sounds like quite a pickle. I don't know what I would do.
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    I start skinny horses on 4-10 steer stuffer and 2 flakes grass hay a day. Depending on how skinny they are I'd give them 4 pounds a day and work them up to 8 pounds a day depending on how much they are being worked.

    EDIT**And throw some steam rolled oats on top aswell.

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    Exactly. I wish it was as simple as calling an equine dentist out. I've mentioned it to them. They don't exist here. And this is a top-level racing and breeding barn... with connections all OVER the country. If there was one... there'd be one. But there's not.

    So... corn or soybean oil? Over what if I'm unable to find the beet pulp? I know you can't just give it plain... what would it be fed with? A bran mash type thing? Or... what?

    I'll try and convince them to put more free feed hay in. They cut their own hay... and it's near impossible to find any otherwise (like I said, this is Serbia... they do things differently here), so it might be interesting trying to find a higher quality hay... I'll try as hard as I can to find it... but... might not be able to find it. Most people who own any kind of grazing animal cut their own hay... and use all of it and don't sell any of it.

    Anything else?

    Please guys... it's a really odd situation... and I'm kind of at a loss. I'm going to stop by some of the nearby feed stores tomorrow (it's 9 PM right now) and see what I can find...

    ETA: 4-10 Steer Stuffer???? What is that? Is it an international feed... or... what? I googled it and didn't find anything...
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    I did the sheer calories approach to putting weight on my catalyic horse. Simple stuff, added to his feed. Applesauce, Karo syrup, veg/corn oil, fruit salad, powdered milk. I went out on a limb and started using human bulk-up additives, after the eq version failed. Also protein shakes/ drinks, to boost his calcium/phosphorus and vitamin mineral intake. He was on complete pelleted feed and a vi/min/protein booster supplement, which he sometimes wouldnt eat without He seemed to Like the anise/licorice smell. The bulkup/ protein drink seemed to make a difference. I read the labels and saw nothing threatening there. He was at an age and state wehre he had nothing to lose; if what he got didnt help him, what he had was liable/going to kill him. He put on noticeable weight, at reasonable rate.
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    You'll be fighting a losing battle if the teeth are an issue. Either due to pain caused by eating or sheer inability to properly chew the food.

    Now the roughage hay, just making sure we're on the same page here. Are we talking about the square baled hay you mentioned? Or is this some type of processed hay (like pellets, or chaff, or cubes)? Do you know how much of everything he's actually getting?

    When you're dealing with bare basics, then oils would be a reasonable source to turn to. Unfortunately, particularly if his digestion is already compromised, then oils might make the situation worse from a nutritional point of view. He's already going to be suffering from not getting the 'most' out of what he does eat. And oils can cause nutrients to not be properly absorbed as well. But it would get more calories into him. Definately don't turn to corn. High in calories by volume, but excessively high in sugars which can make the digestion problem all the much worse.

    Any kind of processed forage can benefit him (it will be easier for him to chew than hay). And soaking the feed might help as well.

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    beet pulp if you can find it





    this is about a 5 week difference senior & beet pulp.. and yes senior even for younger horses because it is easier to digest
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