[Shay's Sunshine]

Good news! Chiro is coming on Thursday!!!!!! If he doesn't help Shay then we will work with the Vet school.

Shay seemed pretty good today. Didn't have a full blown episode in the 5 hours someone was observing him. That is improvement!

[Lady barth]

Originally Posted by tbtrainer

I have some good stuff you can paint on his coronet band to promote growth and help it heal, you can also paint the bottom of his foot where the vet dug out the spot. It's called Reducine, and I swear by it. Most tack stores no longer carry it, so you might have to order it. I think I got my last few cans from Valley Vet. You can google Reducine to get more info. It's an old remedy and the can says it it a blistering agent. Around the track it has been used for years on feet and works wonders.

Is that the linament? I also heard (and have tried but not noticed any difference) rubbing bigeloil on the coronet bands. Was recommended by some jumper grooms around here.

[jumpthemoon]

Has your horse been treated for threadworms on a regular basis? I have been reading about their wierd neurological seeming symptoms and just have a hunch. I think your area has threadworms.

[tbtrainer]

Great site on Reducine!
equine-articles.stablemade.com/horse-health/reducine.htm

[BettyBootsy]

Shay did you answer Lacy's PM? Please do!

[Shay's Sunshine]

Hmmm Threadworms?? I will investigate! Thanks!

I want to say to all of you on the forum how touched I am for your concern. It has been SO helpful to me since I have had to watch my horse go through daily pain (3 weeks) and vet's sending me home with no answers! I felt so all alone and helpless. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

Lacy has PM me about some of you helping me get Shay to Auburn! How AWESOME is that! You are a blessing from God!

Chiro coming Thursday - if no improvement for Shay we will head to Auburn! (haven't hear back from them yet however)

[Shay's Sunshine]

Would Threadworms be controlled by the "deworming" meds we give? Shay has been on a regular schedule since at this barn & with me with worming meds (the past 10 months), not sure if he got anything done with that before then.

[Morri]

From Horse Health Care: Dewormers for Horses by Cherry Hill
"Threadworms can also be a problem for foals under six months of age. They are not common in the older horse. Ivermectin and oxibendazole (a benzimidazole) are effective on threadworms"
This is a pretty comprehensive article

[morgangirl]

Are these signs part of your horses behaviour. Information I looked up on shivers from a lameness book by a vet.

Definiation: Shivering is characterized by involuntary muscular movements of the limbs and tail. Both hind limbs and the tail are usually affected, but sometimes the forelimbs may be involved.

Signs: In mild cases the signs may be difficult to detect, since they occur at irregular intervals, but in most cases the signs are characteristic. They usually are evident when an attempt is made to back the affected horse. As the horse attempts to back, he jerks a hind foot from the ground and holds it in a flexed position abducted from the body. The limb shakes violently, while the tail is elevated and quivers. After a short time the quivering ceases and the limb and tail return to a normal position. The symptoms usually recur if attempts are again made to force the horse to back. In some horses, the signs are most evident when the horse is turned or forced to step over an object or when his foot is raised from the ground by hand. The eyelids and ears may flicker, and the lips may be drawn backward. Signs usually tend to increase in severity over time.

Can you remember any of these symptoms from before? Did he ever jerk a hind leg when being backed?. This probably won't help you but maybe you can see if he has any of the other symptoms and possibly rule shivers out if nothing else.

[lacy]

Originally Posted by morgangirl

Are these signs part of your horses behaviour. Information I looked up on shivers from a lameness book by a vet.

Definiation: Shivering is characterized by involuntary muscular movements of the limbs and tail. Both hind limbs and the tail are usually affected, but sometimes the forelimbs may be involved.

Signs: In mild cases the signs may be difficult to detect, since they occur at irregular intervals, but in most cases the signs are characteristic. They usually are evident when an attempt is made to back the affected horse. As the horse attempts to back, he jerks a hind foot from the ground and holds it in a flexed position abducted from the body. The limb shakes violently, while the tail is elevated and quivers. After a short time the quivering ceases and the limb and tail return to a normal position. The symptoms usually recur if attempts are again made to force the horse to back. In some horses, the signs are most evident when the horse is turned or forced to step over an object or when his foot is raised from the ground by hand. The eyelids and ears may flicker, and the lips may be drawn backward. Signs usually tend to increase in severity over time.

Can you remember any of these symptoms from before? Did he ever jerk a hind leg when being backed?. This probably won't help you but maybe you can see if he has any of the other symptoms and possibly rule shivers out if nothing else.

What a great explaination!

Shay- have you ever made your horse walk around or make sharp turns, just to see if his body language changes or he shows any kind of pain??

It might be a good thing to do- if he shows a difference then that would be more to tell Auburn

Defiently let me know what happens on Thursday- Illl be checking your thread, but just in case I miss it. If it comes down to getting you to Auburn and you cant get ahold of that trailer, then I'm sure HGS can get a "trailer train" together for you!