[Arabians4ME]

I just got Touch's test results back from Murray State University. There is the pink slip and a results sheet.

He tested negative but I know I am supposed to send copies somewhere. State of TN and AHA I think. Does anyone know? and how do I go about it?

OR should I just pop it inthe mail?

[Equine Repro]

Originally Posted by Arabians4ME

I just got Touch's test results back from Murray State University. There is the pink slip and a results sheet.

He tested negative but I know I am supposed to send copies somewhere. State of TN and AHA I think. Does anyone know? and how do I go about it?

OR should I just pop it inthe mail?

Is the state requiring your stallion to be tested? If so, I'd contact the State Veterinary board. If you don't get the responses you need/want, contact Dr. Peter Timoney at the University of Kentucky. He's the leading guru on EVA in the world and very, very nice to speak with. Gotta love the Irish accent, as well <smile>.

Kathy St.Martin
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[Arabians4ME]

No the state is not requiring it. We were just told it was reccomended for our area. So I did it since it was relatively inexpensive. Thanks Kathy!

[Equine Repro]

Originally Posted by Arabians4ME

No the state is not requiring it. We were just told it was reccomended for our area.

Then you have no requirement to report it to anyone. It's just good to have verifiable proof that your stallion is EvA negative at this time. I trust you plan to vaccinate? That's the wise protocol to follow as you would no longer have a worry about the possibility of your stallion being inadvertently exposed to the disease and becoming a shedder of the virus.

Hope that helps!

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[Arabians4ME]

That is where we are butting heads. I would like to but was told that we would hvae to remain away from the rest of the horses for about 3wks. I have no means of doing that. Or I would be vaccinating.

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Originally Posted by Arabians4ME

That is where we are butting heads. I would like to but was told that we would hvae to remain away from the rest of the horses for about 3wks. I have no means of doing that. Or I would be vaccinating.

Uhmmm errr...is he running with other horses or is he in his own stall and paddock? Vaccinating and quarantining is extremely easy for EVA and the MAIN reason for quarantining is more to avoid the possibility of your stallion being exposed to an active case of EVA.

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[Arabians4ME]

Originally Posted by Equine Repro

Uhmmm errr...is he running with other horses or is he in his own stall and paddock? Vaccinating and quarantining is extremely easy for EVA and the MAIN reason for quarantining is more to avoid the possibility of your stallion being exposed to an active case of EVA.

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We have 17 horses total on the place. 11 of which are his stall mates. He is in contact with majority of them during turnout and work. They told me it was a waste of my money and that he could get the other horses sick while or himself during the first vaccine. They also told me that it was not very effective. The tech did soem research on it for me and said that most veterinarians weren't even reccomeding it. So I'm sorta at a confused loss...

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Originally Posted by Arabians4ME

We have 17 horses total on the place. 11 of which are his stall mates. He is in contact with majority of them during turnout and work.

So it's your barn and your facility and your horses? Simply avoid contact with other horses and do not allow other horses on the property during that three week period.

[quote] They told me it was a waste of my money and that he could get the other horses sick while or himself during the first vaccine. ]/quote]

For crying out loud. While there is ALWAYS the risk whenever vaccinating an animal for ANYTHING, that they will become ill, there is a more significant risk that the animal will contract the disease they are being vaccinated for.

They also told me that it was not very effective. The tech did soem research on it for me and said that most veterinarians weren't even reccomeding it. So I'm sorta at a confused loss...

The tech, is quite frankly, full of s$%*. Most veterinarians are not well versed on the disease and/or the protocol for vaccination against the disease. The STandardbred industry is VERY familiar with it as it is prevalent in the breed. Warmblood breeders are also fairly well educated about the disease as it is fairly common in Germany and the Netherlands. There are periodic outbreaks of it here in the US with the most recent in the Quarter Horse industry being the impetus for many breeders to become better educated on EVA. Two years ago, there was an outbreak of it in the Tennessee Walker industry but because that population of breeders is comparatively small when compared to the Quarter Horse industry, it went largely, unnoticed. Here in the US we use a modified live virus vaccine. It IS extremely effective. ALL of my stallions have been vaccinated for the disease and have been for years - but I breed warmblodos. Quarantining is relatively easy as it doesn't require that you do anything more than separate the animals - adjacent stalls are sufficient.

We recently completed an article on EVA with Dr. Timoney. I'm in the process of looking for a magazine to publish the article, but barring that, it will probably appear on our website in the near future if no magazine picks it up...

Hope that helps.

Kathy ST.Martin
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[Kicks]

They told me it was a waste of my money and that he could get the other horses sick while or himself during the first vaccine. ]/quote]

For crying out loud. While there is ALWAYS the risk whenever vaccinating an animal for ANYTHING, that they will become ill, there is a more significant risk that the animal will contract the disease they are being vaccinated for.



The tech, is quite frankly, full of s$%*. Most veterinarians are not well versed on the disease and/or the protocol for vaccination against the disease. The STandardbred industry is VERY familiar with it as it is prevalent in the breed. Warmblood breeders are also fairly well educated about the disease as it is fairly common in Germany and the Netherlands. There are periodic outbreaks of it here in the US with the most recent in the Quarter Horse industry being the impetus for many breeders to become better educated on EVA. Two years ago, there was an outbreak of it in the Tennessee Walker industry but because that population of breeders is comparatively small when compared to the Quarter Horse industry, it went largely, unnoticed. Here in the US we use a modified live virus vaccine. It IS extremely effective. ALL of my stallions have been vaccinated for the disease and have been for years - but I breed warmblodos. Quarantining is relatively easy as it doesn't require that you do anything more than separate the animals - adjacent stalls are sufficient.

We recently completed an article on EVA with Dr. Timoney. I'm in the process of looking for a magazine to publish the article, but barring that, it will probably appear on our website in the near future if no magazine picks it up...

Hope that helps.

Kathy ST.Martin
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In reading some info from the SD Animal Industry Board (Jan. 2007) it says

• Whereas mares and geldings typically clear the disease, stallions may become carriers, as the virus is capable of persisting in the secondary sex glands.
• Equine Viral Arteritis is a reportable disease! Carrier stallions can be managed for breeding purposes. If a stallion is identified as a carrier, contact the Animal Industry Board for guidelines regarding documentation and testing procedures prior to breeding.

Does that mean that a stallion may get it and not become a 'carrier' and that a gelding or mare could become a 'carrier'? As it is also a respriatory disease, how often is it spread that way? What is the protol for safely breeding a positive stallion and how safe is it?

Another question - how complete does the isolation/quarantine have to be after the blood is draw until the end of 21 days post vaccination?

[Equine Repro]

I'm going to go through your post, item by item.

Originally Posted by Kicks

In reading some info from the SD Animal Industry Board (Jan. 2007) it says

• Whereas mares and geldings typically clear the disease, stallions may become carriers, as the virus is capable of persisting in the secondary sex glands.

Equine Viral Arteritis is testosterone dependent. It NEEDS testosterone in order to stay "alive". Without it, the disease clears. This is why geldings and mares, while they can contract the disease, once they are over the active stage of the disease, they're done. Stallions however, while they won't display clinical signs of the disease once they are past the acute stage, can become carriers. The virus remains in the secondary sex glands of some stallions and they become chronic shedders of the disease.

• Equine Viral Arteritis is a reportable disease! Carrier stallions can be managed for breeding purposes. If a stallion is identified as a carrier, contact the Animal Industry Board for guidelines regarding documentation and testing procedures prior to breeding.

The disease is reportable in some states. Other states have no requirements. It's one of the problems with the disease and we're one of only a handful of the major racing countries that has no restrictions with regards to the disease!

Does that mean that a stallion may get it and not become a 'carrier' and that a gelding or mare could become a 'carrier'? As it is also a respriatory disease, how often is it spread that way? What is the protol for safely breeding a positive stallion and how safe is it?

A stallion "can" contract the disease and not become a carrier. A mare or a gelding can contract the disease, but because they don't have testosterone coursing through their veins, they won't become carriers. With regards to it bieng spread via respiratory, I really can't answer that. A mare that is negative for the disease and is bred to a shedding stallion may develop the respiratory symptoms of the disease and spread it to her stablemates. It is probably more commonly spread that way and hence the fear of abortion storms. With regards to the protocol for breeding to a positive stallion, vaccinate the mare, wait three weeks after vaccination and you're good to go. Or, you can have blood drawn on the mare to determine if she's been exposed to the disease and has sufficient titers for protection. If not, vaccinate. It's an easily managed disease, but you need to know before hand in order to be proactive!

Another question - how complete does the isolation/quarantine have to be after the blood is draw until the end of 21 days post vaccination?

Horses can be stabled close to each other, you just want to avoid them being able to touch each other. No special protocl needs to be in place to avoid cross contaimination say of feed dishes, water pails, etc....It's actually very easy.

Hope that helps!

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