[Liberty's Gal]

Originally Posted by icyssunset

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.)
Forward, suppleness, relaxation, full seats, impulsion, Warmblood, 'outside leg to inside rein', back to front

2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders.
Serious? Maybe a little snotty...depends I suppose.

3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.)
Ride expensive imported horses, have horses with professional trainer, expensive shows/costs

4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english.
It varies too much to say. I have been to nice barns of both types.

5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders.
English tack shop, rated shows? Not sure about non-horse related htings as I have never gone out withother english riders.

6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.)
Of course. Those people who ride/train at upper or FEI levels have much more respect garnered to them.

7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be?
Make it less expenive.

8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english?
Yes, I see very few men ride dressage.

9. Have you ever ridden western before?
YEs

10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life?
I started western but quickly switched to dressage.

Ok...so those are they! If you don't want to answer all of them than thats fine. Thanks soo much! This will really help me out!

Your welcome!

[Reitpferde]

If I may just add one little thing - you guys might agree, but there are actually subcultures among our "subculture" - dressage, hunter/jumpers, and eventers. I am a jumper. Some refer to dressage riders "queens", the eventers inconsidered crazy people. I was taking care of a dressage horse over one summer. You guys should have heard what the "dressage queens" were saying to the horses owner: "How could you let a hunter/jumper ride your horse. She'll ruin her!!!" Please, no one take this personally. I just thought it was a bit of amuzing inside info for the Western riders.

[ryu2832]

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.) Rhythm, regularity, relaxation, contact, Schwung, straightness, collection, Hacking out, on the bit.

2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders. They enjoy a challenge.

3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.) That they are snobs and a forcing their horse to perform.

4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english. English

5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders. At the end of the Arena watching others ride. Riding Clinics.

6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.) Yes. Riding a certain level lends a certain amount of respect.

7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be? IDK...I pretty much enjoy it as it is. It would be nice if some of the upper level barns would help out beginning riders more.

8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english? Yes. I only have ridden with one male riding English in the last 5 years.

9. Have you ever ridden western before? Yes. It is what I rode and showed when I was younger.

10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life? Switched from Western.

Ok...so those are they! If you don't want to answer all of them than thats fine. Thanks soo much! This will really help me out!

[ryu2832]

Originally Posted by Reitpferde

If I may just add one little thing - you guys might agree, but there are actually subcultures among our "subculture" - dressage, hunter/jumpers, and eventers. I am a jumper. Some refer to dressage riders "queens", the eventers inconsidered crazy people. I was taking care of a dressage horse over one summer. You guys should have heard what the "dressage queens" were saying to the horses owner: "How could you let a hunter/jumper ride your horse. She'll ruin her!!!" Please, no one take this personally. I just thought it was a bit of amuzing inside info for the Western riders.

Dressage Queen (DQ) Husband's paying the bills
Dressage Princess (DP) Daddy's paying the bills
There are also HP's (Hunter Princess) and HQ's.
OR. Poor, you're paying the bills.....

Eventers are crazy, I hope to be one someday....

[Aurical]

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.): trot, canter, rising trot, two-point, crest release, there are many more, but I'm blanking currently.

2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders: In my experience there isn't a sterotypical attitude for english riders, they merely reflect the individual's personality: I'm pretty laid back and don't really care as long as my horse is healthy, the tack is functional, and I'm enjoying myself. I know others who have to have the best/newest/most expensive of everything and are generally snotty and high strung. I've also seen about everything in between

3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.): As previously mentioned I haven't seen experienced this personally, but I imagine they are stereotyped as being affluent, perfectionist, high maintenance, and perhaps condescending?

4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english.
I have spent time at 4 different barns: 1 western and 3 english. The western barn was a small private barn - it was very clean but did not have all the bells and whistles of a large barn. Two of the english barns were larger barns with many boarders - these were also quite clean and had amenities like and indoor ring, wash stall, etc. The third english barn was just about the exact opposite. Horses were not treated well, stalls were not cleaned regularly, some horses were not being fed enough, not enough turnout time, small stalls, the list goes on... There were some amenities (indoor ring) but the BO would cut every possible corner she could.
5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders. Long story short: I wouldn't say there is a strong correlation between riding style and "nice-ness" of a barn.

6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.): I would say there is to some degree. Students should respect their trainers, trainers should respect the BO/BM. Novice students should respect the guidance/advice of older students. In my experience it is not absolute. For example, if a student doesn't like what a trainer is doing he/she may talk with the BO/BM...

7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be?
I can't really think of anything.

8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english? 99.9% of riders I see are women so it is hard to say. I want to say that more of the men I've seen ride western (it would guess it seems more manly and would therefore attract more men), but when I really think about it it's not the case. I also haven't spent much time around western riders.

9. Have you ever ridden western before?: Yes - when I first started taking lessons my parents thought it would be better to get some of my foundations (aka staying in the saddle at a trot... I mean jog) in western before moving on to english. I was too small for any of the instructor's western saddles so she had me use an australian saddle. We stayed there for maybe 6 mos - 1 year and then moved to the horrible english barn. I have also gone on many western trail rides.

10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life? See above answer.

[Kicks]

"English is indeed a sub culture but it is made up of several subcultures diverse disciplines - hunt seat which is divided into Hunter and Jumper for show and the hard core Fox Hunter: Dressage: Eventing, includes both Dressage and jumping: Saddleseat which has divisions in it also. Not to forget aside which can be any of the above or even 'western'. To say (or infer that all "English" is the same is to say that WP horse is the same as a barrel horse or a rope horse and visa versa.

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.)
Impulsion, collection,extension, contact, Weymouth, cavelletti, hacking on the buckle,

2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders.
Most I know are dedicated to learning more, becoming more accomplished at their chosen 'style'.

3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.)

4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english.
By far 'English barns are much cleaner/better repair/organized. I have been to a couple "western" barns thaa t were rather clean and organized and couple of "English barns that weren't in very good shape but by and large "English barns are far and above "Western barn for the physical biuldings and care of them.

5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders.
Anywhere people usually met.

6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.)
Of course there is a heirarchy - there is a heirarchy in all asspects of life.

7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be?

8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english?
There are a lot more men, proportionately, in the lower levels of 'western' than are found in lower levels of "English", however, as you go "higher up the ladder" it levels out.

9. Have you ever ridden western before?
Yes. I don't like the bulk and inability to really feel your horse under you.

10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life?
I learned to ride in a McLelland. Then 'forward seat' in France as a young child. When we came back to the States I got into Saddleseat/Saddlebreds until Daddy retired and we moved back to SW FL which had nothing 'horsewise' going on there then other than 'western' so I spent 3 mispent (for me anyway) years barrel racing. Got into jumping (dabbled in hunter) and then Dressage and finally a little eventing. I primarily ride dressage today but do occasionally pop a fence or two.

[Reitpferde]

Originally Posted by ryu2832

Dressage Queen (DQ) Husband's paying the bills
Dressage Princess (DP) Daddy's paying the bills
There are also HP's (Hunter Princess) and HQ's.
OR. Poor, you're paying the bills.....

Eventers are crazy, I hope to be one someday....

LOL!!! Good for you. I am a Jumper Queen in my own castle. Kids are on water and bread, so I can afford my horse

[SaddleUp158]

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.)
1. walk
2. trot
3. canter
4. hand gallop
5. diagonals
6. leads
7. half halt
8. simple change
9. extended trot
10. breeches
2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders.
Like anybody else.
3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.)
hunter princesses, more money.
4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english.
only been to primarily english barns.
5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders.
shows
6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.)
sure, same with all seats
7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be?
hmmm
8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english?
yes
9. Have you ever ridden western before?
yes
10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life?
switched back and forth and competed both at shows.

[Vashti]

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.) : simple change, transition, 2-point, on the forhand, forward movement, impulsion, on the bit, outside/inside (aids), release, outside bend

2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders. it depends on if they are the snobby type or the nice type

3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.) snobby, spoiled and overly competitive to the point that they don't care about their horses as much

4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english.
i don't know b/c i am not ever at western barns, only ranches which are generally not very clean.

5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders. at the barn!

6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.) no not really. i guess a little bit, but it is expected and it really depends on the individual persons.

7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be?
the cost!

8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english? yes that would be about right although the women seem to outnumber the men in both disciplines.

9. Have you ever ridden western before? yes

10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life? mostly english all my life but the occasional western ride. never seriously.

[kansess]

1. Give ten words that are commonly used in english riding. (posting, half halt, etc.)

Posting, two-point, canter, trot, diagonal, irons, girth, chaps (?), breeches (?), and...

2. In your own personal experience, what is the general attitude of english riders.

It's not really attitude but they talk to the trainer/instructor when they're cantering or trotting. Here, western riders talk when they stopped.

3. In your own opinion, what is the stereotype of english riders (things like nice, rich, well groomed, etc.)

All the necessary apparel (breeches, helmets, chaps, etc.) gives the apperance of a rich, snotty rider but really isn't!

4. In the barns that you have gone too, which are cleaner and overall nicer to be at....barns that are mainly western or barns that are mainly english.

Here, the upside is English and the downside is western. They're both the same. We interact with people from both sides and we cross borders too.

5. What are the most common meeting places of english riders.

Hm ... I'm not so sure about that. Maybe where they tack up?

6. Do you feel that their is a certain form of hierarchy in the english world? (judges over trainers, trainers over students, etc.)

Hierarchy???

7. If you could change one thing about riding english what would it be?

Um ... I really like English riding the way it is!

8. In your own observation, do more men ride western and more women ride english?

Actually, I've never met a male rider in person before!

9. Have you ever ridden western before?

Yes, I have. In fact, in the barn, beginners always start in a bareback pad then western. After a little western, you can branch off to English (showjumping included) or WP and there's even a little driving here.

10. Have you switched over from western to english or have you ridden english all your life?

Like above, I started bareback and western.