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So i'm thinking of switching my horses to Dumor grains...specifically the Equistages. Have any of ...
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    Dumor horse feeds?

    So i'm thinking of switching my horses to Dumor grains...specifically the Equistages. Have any of you guys used Dumor products? Or the equistages? What is your opinion on it?

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    Not very high quality feeds at all. You can do far better. What other brands do you have available? You have Nutrena since Dumor is at Tractor Supply, but most of those aren't high on my list either.

    I know I've read some of your threads recently, but I can't remember - can you give the stats of the horse, health issues, current feed, etc?
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    The results I got from feeding Dumor I might as well have not fed anything at all and saved my money. Not a fan.
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    I can find Purina (which I’m not a huge fan of because of all the by-products, but I have used it before), nutrena, Producers pride, A very slight variety of buckeye (mostly just the grow-n-win), Dynasty, Armada "County spirit", and the occasional Triple Crown feed. Like most horse owners my problem is finding a grain that isn't $20 a bag as I am feeding 6 horses, some which need quite a bit Now most of the websites for our feed stores around here say they carry a bunch of these different grains but once I call they only stock a 1/4 of it on there shelves (one or two different kinds of each brand) or they seem to always be out!

    As for what kind of horses I am feeding, they are as follows:
    23 yr 15.3 National Show Horse (Hard keeper) Thyroid issue so is on Thyro-L. Senior feeds don’t seem to help keep weight on him at all. For some reason omolene 200 does but the price has gone up to $19. He actually looks ok weight wise right now on the corn/oats but is losing his top line.

    17yr 15h Percheron/Friesian (Very easy keeper, fat!) Not horribly overweight anymore but anything extra and he puts on the pounds!

    15yr 17h TB gelding (Semi-hard keeper) he’s not too bad to keep weight on, I only say semi-hard keeper I guess as he’s so big and has to be fed accordingly of coarse.

    7yr 15.1 mustang mare (no concerns of being fat but easy keeper)has a mild case of heaves (had her looked at by the vet a month ago and the best he could say was heaves as he wasn't completely sure. Said if anything changes or gets worse I could have her scoped at MSU)so I don’t want a really dusty grain for her. I have her on vitamin C for her heaves as well as some other holistic natural supplements which seem to be helping…along with starlight peppermints to help open up her airways(really helpful) Again she's not very bad at all, no labored breathing or anything, just the occasional cough. She was taken off round bales as soon as the coughing started so has and will remain on square bales/peeled round bales.

    4yr 15.2 TB mare (Not fat but easy keeper)

    15month 13.2 Sport Pony colt (Easy keeper)

    They are currently being fed grass hay morning and night. They get enough in the am where they are finishing up about an hour or two before fed dinner. During the summer they are usually on free choice hay but we have such a huge hay shortage right now that I am peeling off round bales and feeding that way. Also they are all on a corn/oats/mineral mix but I am not happy with it and don’t think it is supplying the necessary vits/minerals. As well as they all get a pump of coco-soya once a day. I also had a few of them on Equi-shine this pas summer but wasn't sure if I was seeing any difference (What is your opinion on equi-shine?) Last winter I had them on a pelleted grain from the same feed store I am getting the corn/oats mix from. My sport pony colt would choke on it every time he was fed (whether I soaked it or not) and my older guy had a problem with it as well, so I got rid of that all together. If you need anymore information just let me know and I will do my best to describe them. I want to make sure they are getting all the necessary feed requirements but I will add that I don’t have the budget to be giving them all high end supplements and $20 + bags of grain L Thanks!!

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    you have to remember, some of those more expensive bags of feed are fed at much lower amounts. SO, you have to need to look at the per day/per horse cost, not the cost per each bag.

    all your easy keepers could very well be on a ration balancer. Yes, more expensive per bag, but you are providing them everything they need in a VERY small amount, so the per horse/per day cost is much less.
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    Id put all the easy keepers on a ration balancer. I love Triple Crown's 30%. It balances our grass hay perfectly and makes previously hard keepers into easy keepers IME. Its costly up front but you feed less a day.

    I feed 1 to 2 lbs of the RB according to the horse at hand a day.

    For those that need more calories, I add alfalfa Hay, cubes or pellets about 5 lbs at a time (approx 4 to 5K calories extra) or for harder keepers 10 lbs a day split in two. I feed this separably from their ration balancer if im feeding cubed or pellets especially - spaced out about an hour after they are fed the RB so they can digest it without pushing it through too fast to be well utilized.

    I add flax seed to all my guys 1 cup a day for coats.

    If I still need more calories, I will add rice bran and/or Cool calories which is 100% fat and more cost effective IME than oil and rice bran even but some horses are picky. I sometimes use a shot of oil or water just to get the CC to stick to the feed better tho.

    If that still doesnt work, I add Triple Crown's Senior feed ratioed out to the ration balancer. I add it 1 lb at a time till I find the right combo. Once the horse gets back up to where I want him, I slowly back off the extras till I find the balance point that is the simplest way of feeding and as close to foraged based as possible with the RB. I prefer alfalfa every time to add weight and rice bran or CC added to the RB if I just need mo refat.

    I go to the SR as a last resort.

    This way is the cheapest way I have found for my area that results in healthy, well kept and bloomed horses. I do however give free choice round rolls in slow feeder hay nets that I make from old fishing nets I get off Ebay cheap and that makes a difference.
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    Trinity3205..Thank you so much for all the information! I love the idea of the Triple Crown 30%, unfortunately I cannot find it anywhere near me. The only triple crown I can get is TC lite, TC senior, TC Low Starch, TC growth, and TC complete..and that’s saying that the store is actually carrying that or in stock Most of the stores in my area list a lot of these feeds on there website but when you call they say "well we don’t have many people who buy that product so we don’t stock it anymore" although I will call tomorrow when the stores are open and see what they have in the TC regards just in case. If I can't find the TC 30% RB, any other suggestions on RB‘s?

    I love feeding Alfalfa hay as that's what my NSH got when I first bought him, he had great weight then (then again I was living farther south and everyone down there fed alfalfa) Up where I am now, you mention wanting alfalfa bales and everyone throws a fit saying no way will they feed that to horses "its too rich!!"…half of them wont even feed 3rd cutting, if we have a season where we even get 3rd cutting. (On occasion I can find some nice alfalfa bales but I will have to wait until summer now to start the search) I of coarse disagree with not feeding alfalfa so I get stuck with alfalfa cubes. I think with what you have said I will go back to that (not sure if I can find pellets but I’m going to try because that would be easier).

    I fed by big TB alfalfa cubes and beet pulp for quite a while after I bought him as he had allergies to all kinds of hay/grain! That is all we could feed him so he wasn’t covered in hives (talk about feeding a lot to keep that guy up to weight and happy! lol. Of coarse we have now figured out his allergy problems (thanks to all natural/holistic routes) and he is now a happy horse and can eat whatever he wants. Of coarse for him I had to break up each cube and soak it over night so I didn’t worry about choke. I don’t have a heated area in my barn so its hard to soak anything overnight without it all freezing, not mention breaking up all those cubes gets old after a while. Although now that I’m not relying on someone else to feed in the am I can break them up after they soak before they are fed.(just need to figure out a way to soak everything where it doesn’t freeze)

    Where do you get your Flax from? I have heard great things about it but don’t know of anyone in my area that feeds it. I would prefer to feed that over the coco-soya. I will definitely look into the cool calories as well, that sounds like a good choice for my older guy and big TB.

    I'm also not very familiar with rice bran? All the vets and breeders around here suggest beet pulp. I will admit I’m mostly used to the commercial grains. Anything new I can learn nutrition wise would be wonderful! I want to make sure my guys are getting just what they need, and of coarse in a cost friendly way.

    Hmm I will have to look into the slow feeder hays nets as well, I like the idea of that. Do you have a problem with them falling apart from the over eager horse?

    Lopinslow...Thanks! Yes I don’t mind feeding the more expensive grains as long as I don’t have to feed 5lbs+ of it Other then the triple crown 30% that I don’t believe I will be able to find around here...Any other RB suggestions?

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    you said you had access to Buckeye, they have a VERY nice ration balancer! i fed it for a few years, until i stopped working near that dealer (and no others close to me)

    i'm currently feeding ADM, one of which is Mintrate which is their Ration balancer. Progressive is also very good
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    I believe my farrier has mentioned something about ADM feeds before. I will look into it and see where I can find it around me. Also will look into the buckeye RB. We used to have a feed store in my area that carried a ton of buckeye products...now they only have a couple I am really not in the best area for horse owners! I much prefered living in FL to where I am now. Thanks!

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    I switched mine over to ADM products a few months ago and am very happy with them so far!

    although, i did have to take one weanling off the Juniorglo and put her on the mintrate (RB) cuz she's growing too fast, which we were concerned could be an issue because she's so big AND has been growing like a weed! (full QH and almost 14.2h in the hips at 8 months)
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