Draft and Pony breeding

BarebackJourney · 03-18-2005, 03:25 PM

My last started thread on this was shut down, and I was disappointed because I had NOT duplicated the thread, as they said. I am only curious and wanted to know the answer to my question.

My pony, Sierra, is a 5 year old, liver chesnut, spirited 13.3 HH pony mare. She has good conformation and disposition but I think with a calmer, taller stallion, the foal would turn out to be remarkable. Does anyone know if breeding a pony with a draft horse such as a Noriker, Percheron or any other one, is safe? What about a friesian? Thanks!

Lou3 · 03-18-2005, 03:41 PM

I wouldnt say a draft/pony cross was a great idea. if you want a taller stallion go with a quarter horse then you can register the foal as a quarter pony, and it will still be a light enough horse to have a chance of being competitive in most spheres.

Dawn · 03-18-2005, 04:27 PM

Why not look at a 'draft type' small horse? Maybe not necessarily a pony, but not a big huge draft horse?

steeledancer · 03-18-2005, 07:18 PM

Bizarre... (my word of the evening)

I once had a spirited 5 year old 13.3hh liver chestnut mare named... you guessed it... Sierra

She got lost in the bush when someone left the gate open. Her and her foal never returned.

GrayArab · 03-19-2005, 09:13 AM

I would think a 13.3h pony breed to a 17h draft, would have problems. There is a possibility of a big baby in a little momma. I'd Talk to your vet. One option... Haflingers draft ponies and can be found around 15 - 15.3h. Just a thought.

bay_blnd jmpr07 · 03-19-2005, 10:13 AM

keep in mind that the foal could inherit mamma's spirited ways. i think i heard foals are 80% more like their dam

BBJ

bay_blnd jmpr07 · 03-19-2005, 10:16 AM

and i agree with GrayArab.

Halflingers are great drafty types. they are normally 14.2 and under but there are the occasional tall ones(but those ones cant be registered) but they make awesome mounts. and they can do practically anything

BBJ

Dancinglite · 03-19-2005, 10:43 AM

Keep in mind that a responsible breeders will try to breed like to like. I am not refering to size but to type. I have seen pony/draft crosses with less than satisfactory results. I am being VERY VERY nice in my description..

If you want size, go for something that has been proven to produce a quality offspring.

Feeding a quality baby will cost you no more.

Bubba · 03-20-2005, 04:44 AM

I agree, a big stallion crossed with a little mare could be big trouble

. And it's true, crosses of very different types don't always come out very well.

There are many breeds of draft type ponies, though, and the first thing to ask is "what do I wish were different about Sierra's conformation/personality?", and use those things to pick a suitable stallion.

Fell ponies are rare, but they are out there, and are built like small (13-14 hands), stockier friesians. There are also many types of Welsh ponies in each size (from 10 hands to 15 hands-cobs), or even a smaller gypsy vanner

(they can be as small as 13 and 14 hands). If you really want something bigger, try either for height OR heftiness, but not both.

SkipaJo Cowgirl · 03-20-2005, 05:02 AM

I agree with those who would elect not to breed a mare pony with a draft, b/c of the likely birthing complications - unless it was the other way around - pony stud and draft mare.

03-18-2005, 03:25 PM	#1
BarebackJourney Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Jersey Posts: 2,132 Images: 198 Blog Entries: 6	Draft and Pony breeding My last started thread on this was shut down, and I was disappointed because I had NOT duplicated the thread, as they said. I am only curious and wanted to know the answer to my question. My pony, Sierra, is a 5 year old, liver chesnut, spirited 13.3 HH pony mare. She has good conformation and disposition but I think with a calmer, taller stallion, the foal would turn out to be remarkable. Does anyone know if breeding a pony with a draft horse such as a Noriker, Percheron or any other one, is safe? What about a friesian? Thanks! __________________ And for every endless midnight there's a sky for the broken stars and there'll always be a place for you inside my arms.

03-18-2005, 03:41 PM	#2
Lou3 Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 7,110 Images: 30 Blog Entries: 1	I wouldnt say a draft/pony cross was a great idea. if you want a taller stallion go with a quarter horse then you can register the foal as a quarter pony, and it will still be a light enough horse to have a chance of being competitive in most spheres. __________________ Do not condemn another persons culture until you have lived a lifetime in their shoes. FFFL

03-18-2005, 07:18 PM	#4
steeledancer Senior Member+ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 852 Images: 22	Bizarre... (my word of the evening) I once had a spirited 5 year old 13.3hh liver chestnut mare named... you guessed it... Sierra She got lost in the bush when someone left the gate open. Her and her foal never returned. __________________ My website: Tallman Training Centre If you think you can, you can - If you think you can't, you're right. Everything you do, do with all your might Because anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT

03-20-2005, 05:02 AM	#10
SkipaJo Cowgirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,660 Images: 31	I agree with those who would elect not to breed a mare pony with a draft, b/c of the likely birthing complications - unless it was the other way around - pony stud and draft mare. __________________ Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security deserve neither and will loose both. - Benjamin Franklin

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03-18-2005, 04:27 PM	#3
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 28,791 Images: 1267	Why not look at a 'draft type' small horse? Maybe not necessarily a pony, but not a big huge draft horse?

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GrayArab Full Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 76	I would think a 13.3h pony breed to a 17h draft, would have problems. There is a possibility of a big baby in a little momma. I'd Talk to your vet. One option... Haflingers draft ponies and can be found around 15 - 15.3h. Just a thought.

03-19-2005, 10:43 AM	#8
Dancinglite Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,975 Blog Entries: 13	Keep in mind that a responsible breeders will try to breed like to like. I am not refering to size but to type. I have seen pony/draft crosses with less than satisfactory results. I am being VERY VERY nice in my description.. If you want size, go for something that has been proven to produce a quality offspring. Feeding a quality baby will cost you no more.

03-20-2005, 04:44 AM	#9
Bubba Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 318	I agree, a big stallion crossed with a little mare could be big trouble . And it's true, crosses of very different types don't always come out very well. There are many breeds of draft type ponies, though, and the first thing to ask is "what do I wish were different about Sierra's conformation/personality?", and use those things to pick a suitable stallion. Fell ponies are rare, but they are out there, and are built like small (13-14 hands), stockier friesians. There are also many types of Welsh ponies in each size (from 10 hands to 15 hands-cobs), or even a smaller gypsy vanner (they can be as small as 13 and 14 hands). If you really want something bigger, try either for height OR heftiness, but not both.