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Old 10-12-2007, 04:58 PM   #1
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DoubleBar......? Foundation QH

DB, in another thread you said:

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Lexy - one thing you need to take into consideration. This is what I DO! I study QH lines in depth from before the beginnings of the AQHA or NQH associations and then factor them on up into todays horses.


Part of that thread was about Frontera Sugar. Frontera Sugar was sired by a horse owned by Pete Reynolds named Rey. Rey was sired by a TB named Captains Courageous. His dam, Goldie, was the paternal grand-daughter of a horse named Lantados which was also a TB.

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Under the info for Rey, it states that he is 100% NFQHA.

Honestly I don't know how the formula works to figure whether a horse is "foundation" or not, but even with my lack of knowledge, I would have thought that this horse would not make the cut.

Why is it that he qualifies as foundation QH when obviously he is at the very least half TB?



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Old 10-12-2007, 05:16 PM   #2
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Lexy does it give his AQHA # anywhere, the first (I hope I remember right) 27,000 horses inducted into AQHA went under inspection so they aer the orginal "Foundation" horses
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:40 PM   #3
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Lexy does it give his AQHA # anywhere, the first (I hope I remember right) 27,000 horses inducted into AQHA went under inspection so they aer the orginal "Foundation" horses
AQHA - 0005727

I guess I should do some research. Interesting stuff.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:43 PM   #4
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How do you know if your horse is "foundation"? The mare I just bought is supposedly a foundation quarter horse and if she is I'd like to register her foundation if that is at all possible.

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Jess I can Half way do it if you send me a copy of her pedigree to my email I know how but am still learning LOL if that makes sense to you .. I need more pratice and all of mine are done

But Cindy is much better and can even get you the papers you need for like $25 I think it was..
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Lexy - actually, as is common, Allbreed is wrong. Check out the "sires list" directly on NFQHA:
NFQHA Foundation Quarter Horses Blood Precentage Chart

Rey is not listed on there, which means that according to NFQHA rules you trace each line back to the first numbered QH or TB. Since his number is not 001, they would go back to his sire and he would be discounted.


DO NOT rely on allbreed for any really accurate information. They are a public altered database and most often are messed up.
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Peggysue - NFQHA does not "invoke" the 27,000 rule. They go back to the first registered QH or TB in each line. Thus, is the last QH before a TB is not 001, then that line is discounted no matter how far back in the pedigree.

You only stop at the first QH, Unknown or TB with NFQHA.

FFQH and FQHR have the 27,000 rule.
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How do you know if your horse is "foundation"? The mare I just bought is supposedly a foundation quarter horse and if she is I'd like to register her foundation if that is at all possible.

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Jess, I can look if you have her extended lines and tell you if she will qualify. But to get an actual percentage, you would have to pay for the research. If you want to, let me know and I will give you the addy to get it to me and she will then be listed with FFQH
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OK Cindy thanks I knew they were different but if that go that far back there wouldn't really be any 100% would there
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How do you know if your horse is "foundation"? The mare I just bought is supposedly a foundation quarter horse and if she is I'd like to register her foundation if that is at all possible.

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Jess,

Looking at her pedigree, I'd bet she would pass the foundation test.

Leo, Wimpy, King, and Hancock. The closest TB is 7 gen back which is Three Bars.

I bet she's a tank.
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