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11-01-2009, 05:05 PM
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| Senior Member  | Double Bridle Solution?
Would you use a double bridle on an unruly pony that runs through the bit. The thought is to use the curb when pony does not listen but otherwise ride mainly off the snaffle. Dawn |
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11-01-2009, 05:07 PM
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Me personally? No. I would teach the pony to stop.
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11-01-2009, 05:11 PM
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do you really mean a double bridle - 2 bits, one a snaffle and one a curb - or do you mean a pelham, with 2 rein attachments, one acting directly (snaffle) and one acting in a leverage manner (curb)? I might. It depends. Ideally you'd just start over like chester implied. If that's not possible, or not possible all the time, then in the right hands, a pelham would have a place as a teaching tool, NOT as a way of avoiding the training issue 
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11-01-2009, 05:20 PM
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Yes, it is a double bridle. I am not too comfortable with using it, but I don't want to question my trainer. She is gone right now and told me if I ran into problems to go back to her snaffle which I have done. What are some exercises I could do to help with her stopping and downward transitions. I would love for my trainer to come back and we have made major improvements in the snaffle. Dawn |
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11-01-2009, 05:26 PM
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If anything, I would think Pelham before I would think double bridle.
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11-01-2009, 05:52 PM
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I agree, pelham. Ideally, fix the issue. Start at walk/halt/walk/halt. Teach the horse to give and respect pressure. Little by little, baby steps =P OR wait for your trainer to return ...
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11-01-2009, 06:12 PM
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I tend to disagree - mainly because there is no "true" snaffle rein to the pelham, as little as some may think - using the top ring on a pelham still creates some pressure on the poll - which is where the response may be coming from and not the chain as much - hence when using the double bridle - it really is just a sanffle in there - and then the curb when needed - and a better training toll IMO when trying to resolve issues going back to just the snaffle. Also - there is the school of thought that if the pony normally goes in a jointed snaffle - using a jointed pelham IMO is just unneccesary, but a mullen, or ported pelham would be the bit used - and therefore not the same as the normal jointed - and when going back to the snaffle - again you have to change the whole mouth peice and nothing is carried over from bit to bit. Of course fixing the problem in just a snaffle would be more my style LOL. I've never ridden in anything but a snaffle my whole life (bar the double bridle for finessing the hands/schooling a top dressage horse). Have you just tried different mouth peices to start with anyway?
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11-01-2009, 06:14 PM
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What about a elevator bit? She could use the snaffle ring and then the other rein as curb pressure? I don't really know, my friend uses hers all the time, I have never needed one for my horses so that could a bad suggestion ... just throwing it out there...
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11-01-2009, 06:25 PM
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I'd be inclined to ride in a pelham with two reins before I went into a double bridle. Double bridles are for use on well schooled horses - not naughty ones. My horse is insanely strong and very hard to stop but I've just had a lesson yesterday that totally changed all that - MAGIC INSTRUCTOR!!  Can send you a copy of his notes when he sends them through to me if you like??
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11-01-2009, 06:29 PM
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 And what makes you think a pelham is for naughty horses? Just because its used on them doesn't make that so. Its normally used because you can put roundings on them - and then that good ol' uneducated hand can still ride in it - not normal to put roundings on a double bridle so those who can't ride with 2 reins have to go to the pelham - which FYI wasn't built originally to be used with one rein but 2.
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