Does he count...?

Dawn · 06-20-2008, 06:40 PM

So you can guarentee that any horse you breed or buy will not have metabolic 'issues' when faced with a 'modern' diet?

County · 06-20-2008, 06:45 PM

I see no where that I said that in any way nor do I see anything said that would make you think that.

County · 06-20-2008, 06:49 PM

BTW Dawn what exactly is a " modern " diet?

Dawn · 06-20-2008, 07:00 PM

I would use the word 'modern' to relate to a diet based on the grasses and/or cereal grains that we have present to us today. Either on grasses or grains that have been modified over the years to be hardier, which as a side effect raises their sugar levels. Overall, I'm using it as a very loose term to allow for as broad of a range as possible.

County · 06-20-2008, 07:03 PM

Well my horses have been on grass or grass hay and oats since 65. Modern? Old style? Some say both, either way its been working great for me never found a reason to fix what hasn't been broken.

shenanigans · 06-20-2008, 09:54 PM

Prairienights...He looks fantastic, you should be very very proud!

So are we safe in assuming he is a keeper? lol

prairienights · 06-21-2008, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shenanigans

Prairienights...He looks fantastic, you should be very very proud!

So are we safe in assuming he is a keeper? lol

Thank you! He improves everyday I see him

And yep, he's a keeper. Sound, healthy, talented, handsome, and a wonderful disposition. I'll be paying the rest of the money next week.

shenanigans · 06-21-2008, 09:29 AM

Excellant news! I'm very happy for you.

Beeks · 06-21-2008, 10:44 AM

If you look at it from the horses point of view, you would be hard pressed to find one that thinks being turned out on abundant grazing without human interacton, is abusive. In his mind, he's hit the lottery. Unlike the poor hungry belly that is drylotted and never knows when or if another meal is coming.

There are dangers in both but human nature would dictate that the fat horse in the green pasture, is not going to catch the eye of the layman as quickly as the skeleton with hair on a dry lot.

I would also disagree that it is easier to put weight on than take it off. There is more science involved in fattening up a critically underweight horse, than there is to putting the fat horse up and controlling it's rations. It may be more labor intensive for us, as we need to put that fat boy to work but the dangers are far less in taking weight off, than putting it on.

County · 06-21-2008, 10:49 AM

I'm pretty much going by what my vets have said all of them say its easier to put weight on then take it off without starving the horse or compromising its health. I've seen it here with the thin ones I buy just put them on grass or hay 24/7 with a little oats and unless there old or have some type health problem it doesn't take long and there gaining weight nicely. A fat one is tough to keep fed but make lose weight being a forage animal its best if they eat 10 to 12 meals a day health wise their stomach is very small compared to body size.

06-21-2008, 10:44 AM	#49
Beeks Senior Member+ Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Washington Posts: 928 Images: 49	If you look at it from the horses point of view, you would be hard pressed to find one that thinks being turned out on abundant grazing without human interacton, is abusive. In his mind, he's hit the lottery. Unlike the poor hungry belly that is drylotted and never knows when or if another meal is coming. There are dangers in both but human nature would dictate that the fat horse in the green pasture, is not going to catch the eye of the layman as quickly as the skeleton with hair on a dry lot. I would also disagree that it is easier to put weight on than take it off. There is more science involved in fattening up a critically underweight horse, than there is to putting the fat horse up and controlling it's rations. It may be more labor intensive for us, as we need to put that fat boy to work but the dangers are far less in taking weight off, than putting it on. __________________ If wishes were horses, then beggers would ride.

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06-20-2008, 06:40 PM	#41
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,113 Images: 1328	So you can guarentee that any horse you breed or buy will not have metabolic 'issues' when faced with a 'modern' diet?

06-20-2008, 06:45 PM	#42
County Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mn Posts: 1,463	I see no where that I said that in any way nor do I see anything said that would make you think that.

06-20-2008, 06:49 PM	#43
County Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mn Posts: 1,463	BTW Dawn what exactly is a " modern " diet?

06-20-2008, 07:00 PM	#44
Dawn Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 30,113 Images: 1328	I would use the word 'modern' to relate to a diet based on the grasses and/or cereal grains that we have present to us today. Either on grasses or grains that have been modified over the years to be hardier, which as a side effect raises their sugar levels. Overall, I'm using it as a very loose term to allow for as broad of a range as possible.

06-20-2008, 07:03 PM	#45
County Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mn Posts: 1,463	Well my horses have been on grass or grass hay and oats since 65. Modern? Old style? Some say both, either way its been working great for me never found a reason to fix what hasn't been broken.

06-20-2008, 09:54 PM	#46
shenanigans Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 410 Images: 17	Prairienights...He looks fantastic, you should be very very proud! So are we safe in assuming he is a keeper? lol

06-21-2008, 09:29 AM	#48
shenanigans Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 410 Images: 17	Excellant news! I'm very happy for you.

06-21-2008, 10:49 AM	#50
County Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mn Posts: 1,463	I'm pretty much going by what my vets have said all of them say its easier to put weight on then take it off without starving the horse or compromising its health. I've seen it here with the thin ones I buy just put them on grass or hay 24/7 with a little oats and unless there old or have some type health problem it doesn't take long and there gaining weight nicely. A fat one is tough to keep fed but make lose weight being a forage animal its best if they eat 10 to 12 meals a day health wise their stomach is very small compared to body size.