do you know this bit???

dr2202 · 08-05-2008, 04:42 PM

i have had this bit for about 1 year- love it.... and elvis goes well in it...
i am looking for a second one, do you think i know the brand??? ha of course not... i hope some one out there might know what it is

i have been on site after site but cant seem to find it..
i finally settled for a bit with the same mouthpiece, but it was a kimberwick....
i tried it for a couble of days and and it is just not the same...
partrade is sticking in my head,, but maybe they dont make this bit anymore, because no site selling their stuff seems to have anything close to this....any help anyone???????

dr2202 · 08-05-2008, 06:08 PM

ok how about the mouth piece... its broken, but dosnt look like a snaffle..
does anyone know the name?

Heavenly Jumper · 08-05-2008, 06:09 PM

Argentine snaffle with a copper roller.

It is a transition bit from a snaffle to a curb...it can be used as either (one set of reins at the snaffle loop or one set of reins at the curb loop) or with two reins if it is being used for transition.

luv2show · 08-05-2008, 06:27 PM

It's a Copper Roller Training Pelham

I have one for my horse, it's his first shanked bit and he loves it.

dr2202 · 08-05-2008, 06:41 PM

i have seen the pelhams-- but the way that the roller is joined to the mouth piece is different... mine is just the flat copper- the joined section is inside the copper mouth piece, so you dont see the round pieces at all...
i dont know if that would make a differnce of the feel of it in his mouth..

haunani · 08-05-2008, 06:49 PM

Yup, yours is hinged instead of linked like most bits are. I know I've seen them before online, but can't find them for the life of me now. I'm only finding kimberwickes with the hinged mouthpiece.

dr2202 · 08-05-2008, 07:04 PM

yea thats what i bought because it was the same mouth piece...
but he just dosnt like it.... alot of head tossing...
hmm maybe i have to use the term hinged and see what that brings up... thanks!!!!
if you are bored and are looking and find something please email me...
i keep getting brought to the same sites over and over again...

Heavenly Jumper · 08-05-2008, 07:06 PM

Are you using it as a curb bit or a snaffle bit??

That has a lot to do with how the bit functions and how he likes it...

dr2202 · 08-05-2008, 07:22 PM

curb... the kimberwick is supposed to be a leverage bit also, ( i used it on the bottom opening)... but i just wasnt getting the same responses.

Heavenly Jumper · 08-05-2008, 07:23 PM

The difference in leverage is vast (to me) from a kimberwicke to an argentine snaffle. The length of the shank is at least an inch or two.

08-05-2008, 04:42 PM	#1
dr2202 Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: long island N.Y. Posts: 148 Images: 46	do you know this bit??? i have had this bit for about 1 year- love it.... and elvis goes well in it... i am looking for a second one, do you think i know the brand??? ha of course not... i hope some one out there might know what it is i have been on site after site but cant seem to find it.. i finally settled for a bit with the same mouthpiece, but it was a kimberwick.... i tried it for a couble of days and and it is just not the same... partrade is sticking in my head,, but maybe they dont make this bit anymore, because no site selling their stuff seems to have anything close to this....any help anyone???????

08-05-2008, 06:09 PM	#3
Heavenly Jumper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Camden County GA Posts: 15,260 Images: 1320 Blog Entries: 266	Argentine snaffle with a copper roller. It is a transition bit from a snaffle to a curb...it can be used as either (one set of reins at the snaffle loop or one set of reins at the curb loop) or with two reins if it is being used for transition. __________________ My husband is HOME! .'~'. epi tan e epi tas .'~'.

08-05-2008, 06:49 PM	#6
haunani Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Marion, IA Posts: 3,199 Images: 237 Blog Entries: 1	Yup, yours is hinged instead of linked like most bits are. I know I've seen them before online, but can't find them for the life of me now. I'm only finding kimberwickes with the hinged mouthpiece. __________________ Carmen & Meteor & Mars

08-05-2008, 07:04 PM	#7
dr2202 Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: long island N.Y. Posts: 148 Images: 46	yea thats what i bought because it was the same mouth piece... but he just dosnt like it.... alot of head tossing... hmm maybe i have to use the term hinged and see what that brings up... thanks!!!! if you are bored and are looking and find something please email me... i keep getting brought to the same sites over and over again... Last edited by dr2202; 08-05-2008 at 07:07 PM. Reason: more info

08-05-2008, 07:06 PM	#8
Heavenly Jumper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Camden County GA Posts: 15,260 Images: 1320 Blog Entries: 266	Are you using it as a curb bit or a snaffle bit?? That has a lot to do with how the bit functions and how he likes it... __________________ My husband is HOME! .'~'. epi tan e epi tas .'~'.

08-05-2008, 06:08 PM	#2
dr2202 Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: long island N.Y. Posts: 148 Images: 46	ok how about the mouth piece... its broken, but dosnt look like a snaffle.. does anyone know the name?

08-05-2008, 06:27 PM	#4
luv2show Full Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 215 Images: 19	It's a Copper Roller Training Pelham I have one for my horse, it's his first shanked bit and he loves it.

08-05-2008, 06:41 PM	#5
dr2202 Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: long island N.Y. Posts: 148 Images: 46	i have seen the pelhams-- but the way that the roller is joined to the mouth piece is different... mine is just the flat copper- the joined section is inside the copper mouth piece, so you dont see the round pieces at all... i dont know if that would make a differnce of the feel of it in his mouth..

08-05-2008, 07:22 PM	#9
dr2202 Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: long island N.Y. Posts: 148 Images: 46	curb... the kimberwick is supposed to be a leverage bit also, ( i used it on the bottom opening)... but i just wasnt getting the same responses.

08-05-2008, 07:23 PM	#10
Heavenly Jumper Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Camden County GA Posts: 15,260 Images: 1320 Blog Entries: 266	The difference in leverage is vast (to me) from a kimberwicke to an argentine snaffle. The length of the shank is at least an inch or two. __________________ My husband is HOME! .'~'. epi tan e epi tas .'~'.