Do not try this at home !!

Endorphins4u2 · 12-11-2005, 04:20 AM

Hi,

Recently I found this new way of controling horses called "The Endorphin Tap" and was looking for a challenge to see how powerful this technique was, so I went to a breeding farm close to were I worked and asked them could I ride one of their un-broken yearlings.

The breeder thought I was joking until I pulled a saddle and bridle out of my car. He said "we don't have a lunge or any breaking facilities" I said that's why I choose you..

After explaining why and what I wanted to do he agreed and took me to a yearling standing in a 2-3 acre paddock. I took my gear and went to the middle of the paddock and the horse came over to investigate.

I put my bridle on and applied the "Half-tap" get to take the edge of the horse to get the rest of the gear on with as little hassle as possible...

Once the gear was on, I released the "Tap" and let the endorphins wear off..I then stood to the side of the horse and gave a little tug on the lead for it to take the first step with the saddle on.

Well, as you can expect there was a short fireworks display while the horse tried it's best to get out of the gear. The Breeder and his staff that were watching looked at each other and said "You are not serious getting on that horse are you ? " I looked back at them and smiled and one of they went " Oh **** " he is....

I gathered up the horse, took the lead off and turned on the "Full-tap".
As expected the horse lowered it's front legs down and then the rear followed leaving the horse sitting down in the middle of the paddock.

I give the horse a pat,let it back up and do it again just to make sure "The Endorphin Tap" was working..

I got on the horse knowing it didn't have the energy in it's legs to anything but stand there until the endorphins wore off again..

I then shifted my weight around a little to get the horse use to it and gave a little kick for the horse to move forward but in small circles, then as the horse became more and more relaxed the circle got bigger and bigger until eventually we were following the fence around the paddock. After a few laps each-way, I got took the horse back to the middle of the paddock, jumped off and took the gear off and went back to the fence where the breeder was waiting..

He pulled out a 10,000yen ($100) note and tried to give it to me, of corse I didn't take the money, (1) it was an un-pronounced visit which wasn't about money, (2) to me trying this technique on an un-broken horse to me was worth way, way more then $100...

freedom32 · 12-11-2005, 04:31 AM

Yearlings should never ever be ridden, they are not developed enough physically to bear the weight of a rider without causing severe consequences later.

MyY0Y0 · 12-11-2005, 04:33 AM

Why did the breeder (if he were a serious breeder) let just anyone he didn't know go hop on his horse? Especially if it were an untrained yearling? Just curious.

What is this device? Do you have any pics?

harli36 · 12-11-2005, 04:59 AM

First of all I don't know what exactly an endorphine "tap" is. But the reason that twitches work is because of endorphines and the brain will only release the endorphines for up to 15 minutes. After that the horse comes out of their euphoria and are once again completely aware. Personally I don't see how you can take a horse that has never had any preparatory ground work and back them to the point of relaxation in 15 minutes( I don't doubt that you could do the first tacking up though in 15 minutes it's just the riding I question). First of all you haven't taught the horse how to carry himself, which is imparative to his health, second of all he doesn't know how the the bit works, and third of all I don't know about others but I want the first tacking up/backing to be done with NO fireworks displays or rearing.

Once the endorphines wore off it would be very interesting to see how the horse reacted to being backed.

Personally I don't believe that a complete stranger would let you walk right up to an unbroke horse and attempt to ride it. And if that person did they probably have some issues. And I agree with Freedom, I don't think yearlings should be ridden either but unfortunatly not everyone agrees.

I don't doubt that the endorphine release didn't help the horse along but I just don't think it could be done better or more thoroughly then more traditional backing and ground work.

Fox Glove · 12-11-2005, 05:01 AM

Oh dear,
what this thread needs is more
Cowbell..

TTFN,
Paula

freedom32 · 12-11-2005, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Glove

Oh dear,
what this thread needs is more
Cowbell..

TTFN,
Paula

LMAO!!!!

AutumnAttic · 12-11-2005, 05:53 AM

Please dont put these things on here. I doubt its true, but someone could actually try it..

Zoomarsgirl · 12-11-2005, 06:06 AM

.................

harli36 · 12-11-2005, 06:36 AM

After viewing this persons website, the fact that their username is what it is and the fact that they have never said anything before. I'm fairly certain that this person is just using this forum to advertise(the method is for sale on their website) their unresearched personal opinions.

codyntampa · 12-11-2005, 06:39 AM

I agree with Zoomar..lol im going to break out the popcorn and watch this thread go.

12-11-2005, 04:20 AM	#1
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 674	Do not try this at home !! Hi, Recently I found this new way of controling horses called "The Endorphin Tap" and was looking for a challenge to see how powerful this technique was, so I went to a breeding farm close to were I worked and asked them could I ride one of their un-broken yearlings. The breeder thought I was joking until I pulled a saddle and bridle out of my car. He said "we don't have a lunge or any breaking facilities" I said that's why I choose you.. After explaining why and what I wanted to do he agreed and took me to a yearling standing in a 2-3 acre paddock. I took my gear and went to the middle of the paddock and the horse came over to investigate. I put my bridle on and applied the "Half-tap" get to take the edge of the horse to get the rest of the gear on with as little hassle as possible... Once the gear was on, I released the "Tap" and let the endorphins wear off..I then stood to the side of the horse and gave a little tug on the lead for it to take the first step with the saddle on. Well, as you can expect there was a short fireworks display while the horse tried it's best to get out of the gear. The Breeder and his staff that were watching looked at each other and said "You are not serious getting on that horse are you ? " I looked back at them and smiled and one of they went " Oh **** " he is.... I gathered up the horse, took the lead off and turned on the "Full-tap". As expected the horse lowered it's front legs down and then the rear followed leaving the horse sitting down in the middle of the paddock. I give the horse a pat,let it back up and do it again just to make sure "The Endorphin Tap" was working.. I got on the horse knowing it didn't have the energy in it's legs to anything but stand there until the endorphins wore off again.. I then shifted my weight around a little to get the horse use to it and gave a little kick for the horse to move forward but in small circles, then as the horse became more and more relaxed the circle got bigger and bigger until eventually we were following the fence around the paddock. After a few laps each-way, I got took the horse back to the middle of the paddock, jumped off and took the gear off and went back to the fence where the breeder was waiting.. He pulled out a 10,000yen ($100) note and tried to give it to me, of corse I didn't take the money, (1) it was an un-pronounced visit which wasn't about money, (2) to me trying this technique on an un-broken horse to me was worth way, way more then $100...

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12-11-2005, 04:31 AM	#2
freedom32 Senior Member+ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Capital of the Steeler Nation--PITTSBURGH Posts: 7,754	Yearlings should never ever be ridden, they are not developed enough physically to bear the weight of a rider without causing severe consequences later.

12-11-2005, 04:33 AM	#3
MyY0Y0 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA, USA Posts: 1,210	Why did the breeder (if he were a serious breeder) let just anyone he didn't know go hop on his horse? Especially if it were an untrained yearling? Just curious. What is this device? Do you have any pics?

12-11-2005, 04:59 AM	#4
harli36 Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: northeastern Pa Posts: 3,999	First of all I don't know what exactly an endorphine "tap" is. But the reason that twitches work is because of endorphines and the brain will only release the endorphines for up to 15 minutes. After that the horse comes out of their euphoria and are once again completely aware. Personally I don't see how you can take a horse that has never had any preparatory ground work and back them to the point of relaxation in 15 minutes( I don't doubt that you could do the first tacking up though in 15 minutes it's just the riding I question). First of all you haven't taught the horse how to carry himself, which is imparative to his health, second of all he doesn't know how the the bit works, and third of all I don't know about others but I want the first tacking up/backing to be done with NO fireworks displays or rearing. Once the endorphines wore off it would be very interesting to see how the horse reacted to being backed. Personally I don't believe that a complete stranger would let you walk right up to an unbroke horse and attempt to ride it. And if that person did they probably have some issues. And I agree with Freedom, I don't think yearlings should be ridden either but unfortunatly not everyone agrees. I don't doubt that the endorphine release didn't help the horse along but I just don't think it could be done better or more thoroughly then more traditional backing and ground work.

12-11-2005, 05:01 AM	#5
Fox Glove Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Horse Country Posts: 4,772	Oh dear, what this thread needs is more Cowbell.. TTFN, Paula

12-11-2005, 05:53 AM	#7
AutumnAttic Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 5,197	Please dont put these things on here. I doubt its true, but someone could actually try it..

12-11-2005, 06:06 AM	#8
Zoomarsgirl Senior Member+ Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hicktown, Virginia Posts: 7,005	.................

12-11-2005, 06:36 AM	#9
harli36 Senior Member+ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: northeastern Pa Posts: 3,999	After viewing this persons website, the fact that their username is what it is and the fact that they have never said anything before. I'm fairly certain that this person is just using this forum to advertise(the method is for sale on their website) their unresearched personal opinions.

12-11-2005, 06:39 AM	#10
codyntampa Senior Member+ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,588	I agree with Zoomar..lol im going to break out the popcorn and watch this thread go.