Do not try this at home !!

BornToRide · 12-12-2005, 12:34 PM

personally i would not have let a stranger get on one of my horses and expectially a yearling they are not fully developed and for a breeder you think he/she would have more sence then to just let you get on a complete stranger and a breeder of all people should know about yearlings

and again why would you subsitute this way? from doing it the traditonal way and actually getting the horse to learn because you know whats going to happen when someone goes to tack up or get up and get ready without it ?? your going to have problems. this is a way of training i would never use. basically your almost like drugging your horse to be able to do work with them..

thats not right.. completely not right. and a yearling at that !!!

Loves2Ride · 12-12-2005, 01:26 PM

This does NOT work! After reading the website I ordered it and tried it on my friend's yearling! After she laid down I tried to get on...it was okay for about a second until the endorphins wore off. She went completely crazy! She started bucking and rearing and circling like mad. She was so scared! In the frightened rush she stumbled and fell, crushing my left leg and fracturing her fetlock. The ambulances came, she had to be put down and I became a local disgrace in the horse community.

THIS DID NOT REALLY HAPPEN, I was just showing everyone who actually considered this method what could realistically happen. Like everyone said, you can't back a horse while it is, in a way, drugged, and expect it to learn anything. And the fact that the horse was so young and that a breeder would let some random stranger ask to experiment on an unbroke yearling, is just ridiculous! New riders, please listen to the people on the board with respectable knowledge of horses and do not put any equine through this.

POA · 12-12-2005, 02:18 PM

Ha!! If I ever even tried to get that thing near my horse he'd kill me. He hates twitches, I'd love to see his reaction to that trap!

BornToRide · 12-12-2005, 02:55 PM

this is extremely dangerous any horse you are backing and is drugged is not going to learn ne thing. this is completly wrong. personally IMO it is completely cruel .. drug a horse so you can ride!!and ontop of that ITS A YEARNING NOT YET DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY!

BOE · 12-12-2005, 04:02 PM

And what happens when you want to ride your horse without it? He might always need endorphins and be "high" to let you ride. So unreal and such a shortcut that means more work later.

arabianlover · 12-12-2005, 04:23 PM

I SOOOOO agree w/ BOE its like, if you could only talk to someone if they were high, or sumthin, anyways, its against most show rules to havea "drugged" horse!! anyways, this is prolly just an Ad, and he isnt replying~~

Mariah

ImAJumperBaby · 12-12-2005, 04:34 PM

haha, geeze do you think this person is advertising?
uhh yeaa.. look at their login name.
and i would NEVER EVER let some one who i didn't know get on one of my horses at all!!!!!
geeze i think this thread should be deleted
i dont think this site was made for advertising, expecially not to advertise to do something like drugging a horse to "train" it

Loves2Ride · 12-13-2005, 02:22 PM

Guess what I just saw at the Horse Illustrated Message Boards...

http://www.horseillustratedmagazine....OPIC_ID=148975

Loves2Ride · 12-13-2005, 02:24 PM

And this is what the OP posted on at those boards:

Thank you for the feedback,just a few points...

1)The yearling is a thoroughbred racehorse.
2)It is now breaking season in Japan for yearlings which will turn two next year.
3)It is much more powerful then a twicht and much more humane.
4)I have tried this on broken horses of all ages with the same result and had to take it a little further to see if there was any limits to using the technique, and I think an un-broken thoroughbred is as raw as it gets.
5)Think of this technique as a confidence boost for people who are a little worried about how big and strong actually are, if they knew they show the horse who is boss anytime they wanted to, a lot of people would enjoy their horse time a bit better.There are a lot of people afraid of horses but love them just the same.
6)The reason no-body has heard of this is because I only discovered it last year.
7)Before building the site, I asked some of the worlds leading vets about endorphins and nobody wanted to be an authority on the subject,they all told me to ask so & so who told me to ask so & so who told me to ask so & so etc... Next year I have the JRA working with me to shed some light on the subject so please be patient..
8)The site does show you how to do it, you have to click on the buy button to get there ...
9)I posted my experience on the forum because I wanted some feedback about he site, thank you all for your thoughts, it lokks like I need to make things a little clearer..huh
10)To do this all you need is a bridle, it's just to easy to keep to myself...

Cara · 12-13-2005, 02:39 PM

This thread is still going? Lol, I might as well take the popcorn now.

12-12-2005, 12:34 PM	#61
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,005 Images: 192	personally i would not have let a stranger get on one of my horses and expectially a yearling they are not fully developed and for a breeder you think he/she would have more sence then to just let you get on a complete stranger and a breeder of all people should know about yearlings and again why would you subsitute this way? from doing it the traditonal way and actually getting the horse to learn because you know whats going to happen when someone goes to tack up or get up and get ready without it ?? your going to have problems. this is a way of training i would never use. basically your almost like drugging your horse to be able to do work with them.. thats not right.. completely not right. and a yearling at that !!! __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-12-2005, 02:55 PM	#64
BornToRide Senior Member+ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,005 Images: 192	this is extremely dangerous any horse you are backing and is drugged is not going to learn ne thing. this is completly wrong. personally IMO it is completely cruel .. drug a horse so you can ride!!and ontop of that ITS A YEARNING NOT YET DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY! __________________ There are times when you can trust a horse, times when you can't and times when you have to. got to get the bagel with the cream cheeze oh the creamy creamy cheeze eh Blistering Winds? lmao

12-12-2005, 04:23 PM	#66
arabianlover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Pal, Indiana Posts: 854 Images: 238 Blog Entries: 8	I SOOOOO agree w/ BOE its like, if you could only talk to someone if they were high, or sumthin, anyways, its against most show rules to havea "drugged" horse!! anyways, this is prolly just an Ad, and he isnt replying~~ Mariah __________________ check out my photography at www.give-me-envy.deviantart.com

12-13-2005, 02:22 PM	#68
Loves2Ride Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: St. Louie! Posts: 359 Images: 14	Wow...imagine that... Guess what I just saw at the Horse Illustrated Message Boards... http://www.horseillustratedmagazine....OPIC_ID=148975

12-13-2005, 02:39 PM	#70
Cara Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts: 3,586 Images: 26	This thread is still going? Lol, I might as well take the popcorn now. __________________ ~It Depends~ Cara ~ www.freewebs.com/tessajequine~

12-12-2005, 01:26 PM	#62
Loves2Ride Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: St. Louie! Posts: 359 Images: 14	This does NOT work! After reading the website I ordered it and tried it on my friend's yearling! After she laid down I tried to get on...it was okay for about a second until the endorphins wore off. She went completely crazy! She started bucking and rearing and circling like mad. She was so scared! In the frightened rush she stumbled and fell, crushing my left leg and fracturing her fetlock. The ambulances came, she had to be put down and I became a local disgrace in the horse community. THIS DID NOT REALLY HAPPEN, I was just showing everyone who actually considered this method what could realistically happen. Like everyone said, you can't back a horse while it is, in a way, drugged, and expect it to learn anything. And the fact that the horse was so young and that a breeder would let some random stranger ask to experiment on an unbroke yearling, is just ridiculous! New riders, please listen to the people on the board with respectable knowledge of horses and do not put any equine through this.

12-12-2005, 02:18 PM	#63
POA Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in the arena Posts: 1,249 Images: 174	Ha!! If I ever even tried to get that thing near my horse he'd kill me. He hates twitches, I'd love to see his reaction to that trap!

12-12-2005, 04:02 PM	#65
BOE Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 551	And what happens when you want to ride your horse without it? He might always need endorphins and be "high" to let you ride. So unreal and such a shortcut that means more work later.

12-12-2005, 04:34 PM	#67
ImAJumperBaby Full Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 298 Images: 19	haha, geeze do you think this person is advertising? uhh yeaa.. look at their login name. and i would NEVER EVER let some one who i didn't know get on one of my horses at all!!!!! geeze i think this thread should be deleted i dont think this site was made for advertising, expecially not to advertise to do something like drugging a horse to "train" it

12-13-2005, 02:24 PM	#69
Loves2Ride Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: St. Louie! Posts: 359 Images: 14	And this is what the OP posted on at those boards: Thank you for the feedback,just a few points... 1)The yearling is a thoroughbred racehorse. 2)It is now breaking season in Japan for yearlings which will turn two next year. 3)It is much more powerful then a twicht and much more humane. 4)I have tried this on broken horses of all ages with the same result and had to take it a little further to see if there was any limits to using the technique, and I think an un-broken thoroughbred is as raw as it gets. 5)Think of this technique as a confidence boost for people who are a little worried about how big and strong actually are, if they knew they show the horse who is boss anytime they wanted to, a lot of people would enjoy their horse time a bit better.There are a lot of people afraid of horses but love them just the same. 6)The reason no-body has heard of this is because I only discovered it last year. 7)Before building the site, I asked some of the worlds leading vets about endorphins and nobody wanted to be an authority on the subject,they all told me to ask so & so who told me to ask so & so who told me to ask so & so etc... Next year I have the JRA working with me to shed some light on the subject so please be patient.. 8)The site does show you how to do it, you have to click on the buy button to get there ... 9)I posted my experience on the forum because I wanted some feedback about he site, thank you all for your thoughts, it lokks like I need to make things a little clearer..huh 10)To do this all you need is a bridle, it's just to easy to keep to myself...

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