Do not try this at home !!

Shotgun93 · 12-15-2005, 03:03 PM

But, I do the one rein stop from the ground too. And, everything I do on the ground is just a precurser to the saddle, so it WOULD affect his training.

alana529 · 12-15-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotgun93

But, I do the one rein stop from the ground too. And, everything I do on the ground is just a precurser to the saddle, so it WOULD affect his training.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Endorphins4u2 · 12-15-2005, 03:47 PM

To me, a horse should not brace on the end of my rein or leadrope no matter where I am, riding or otherwise, so in my mind if the horse never braces it won't release the endorphins. Is this correct?

You are 100% correct, if the is no pressure on the acupoint there is no endorphin release.

In this case the method in of no use.

It will be handy to know for one day when you will need to gather your horse up for some reason..

Also, everyone has there own way of working with horses. This technique is for all as in size, colour, breed and sport, if it looks like it could interfear with your training , don't use it.

I'm not telling everybody to use this, I'm showing you humans can over-power horses if you have to, because I have read so many people's cry for help about not being able to match the strength of their horse's.

Well, yes there is a way and it's there if you need it..

Endorphins4u2 · 12-15-2005, 04:32 PM

Also, Moostang hit the nail on the head before, I'll explain why in a second..

It's not that we want to over power our horse, it's our horses over powering us this can help with....

ItsAThought · 12-15-2005, 04:33 PM

I don't like the words you are using, such as overpower, break down, and so on, because really, with a horse, that is the opposite of what we and they want. We want to be their partner, not a predetor. We want to work in unison and be able to overcome things through time and patience and trust. But I do see where you are comming from, if something were to happen, and you needed to control the horse for his or your own saftey, you would have to "overpower" him, even though they should listen to you in the first place because the horse is submmisve yet trusting. But that doesn't always happen, when a horse panics its very hard for them to see throguh fear......

But

How can you use this endorphin tap when a horse is panicing? I thought you said the horse must be calm w/o much brain acticity for the tap to overcome them... so if a horse is freaked out by the starting gate, how could this work?

Endorphins4u2 · 12-15-2005, 05:06 PM

It worked on that occassion because the horse was darting through and wouldn't stop in them, the endorphins slowed him down enough to walk through then eventually stand in there with the front open or closed..

Also, Is this thread that addictive that people that can't stop reader it ? Even the the ones that don't like it ?

Where are those cowbells ?

MyY0Y0 · 12-15-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsAThought

I don't like the words you are using, such as overpower, break down, and so on, because really, with a horse, that is the opposite of what we and they want. We want to be their partner, not a predetor. We want to work in unison and be able to overcome things through time and patience and trust. But I do see where you are comming from, if something were to happen, and you needed to control the horse for his or your own saftey, you would have to "overpower" him, even though they should listen to you in the first place because the horse is submmisve yet trusting.

Beautiful post! I've never wanted to be anything but a team with my horse, wouldn't have it any other way.

Endorphins4u2 · 12-15-2005, 05:18 PM

OK! don't read over-power

"Turn my little horsey's head around a bit, and watch him go to sleepy land..sshhh "

moooooooo !

dakota's_sable · 12-15-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Endorphins4u2

Hi,
This can only work while the horse is in a stationary position, the endorphins aren't strong enough to over-ride the horse if it's moving and thinking, too much brain activity. It works when they have stop because there is much brain if the horse is just standing there.

So how do you use this in a situation where you need to get control of the horse as in for a farrier or shots from a vet (situations where people use twitches)? If the horse is supposed to be standing still for this to work, then how would this work on a panicking horse? All the horses that I have seen panick are moving around.

Peg D · 12-15-2005, 05:27 PM

And thats just it.... YOUR HORSE as in singular.... I have many horses and I have had trouble with afew.... the one that kicked me and also...
Here a dandy. A 1 Ton Percheron mare that WILL NOT STAND for the ferrier. How do you stop that from running you over? She was getting downright nasty to 3 of us. she is still walking around with split hooves. If I can get her to do this. I got the job done. If I had ONE horse, pffffft I would feel the same as everyone else on here. I don't have $600 per month for each horse on my property to teach them how to pick up their feet for me when I ask.
Now compare me to your local rescue farm. Bet they would be interested in this to get the job done. Can you imagine the skittish horses they get? Don't knock just yet. I may try this on this 1 ton BBBBBB... I am out of options with her. Our only resource is to call the vet to inject a drug.... whats the diff?
Let the man talk. Please
And don't knock it til you prove it wrong.

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Peg D Senior Member+ Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,212 Images: 491 Blog Entries: 4	And thats just it.... YOUR HORSE as in singular.... I have many horses and I have had trouble with afew.... the one that kicked me and also... Here a dandy. A 1 Ton Percheron mare that WILL NOT STAND for the ferrier. How do you stop that from running you over? She was getting downright nasty to 3 of us. she is still walking around with split hooves. If I can get her to do this. I got the job done. If I had ONE horse, pffffft I would feel the same as everyone else on here. I don't have $600 per month for each horse on my property to teach them how to pick up their feet for me when I ask. Now compare me to your local rescue farm. Bet they would be interested in this to get the job done. Can you imagine the skittish horses they get? Don't knock just yet. I may try this on this 1 ton BBBBBB... I am out of options with her. Our only resource is to call the vet to inject a drug.... whats the diff? Let the man talk. Please And don't knock it til you prove it wrong. __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Member COL Club- hand over the Oil of Olay and nobody gets hurt!

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12-15-2005, 03:47 PM	#173
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	To me, a horse should not brace on the end of my rein or leadrope no matter where I am, riding or otherwise, so in my mind if the horse never braces it won't release the endorphins. Is this correct? You are 100% correct, if the is no pressure on the acupoint there is no endorphin release. In this case the method in of no use. It will be handy to know for one day when you will need to gather your horse up for some reason.. Also, everyone has there own way of working with horses. This technique is for all as in size, colour, breed and sport, if it looks like it could interfear with your training , don't use it. I'm not telling everybody to use this, I'm showing you humans can over-power horses if you have to, because I have read so many people's cry for help about not being able to match the strength of their horse's. Well, yes there is a way and it's there if you need it..

12-15-2005, 04:32 PM	#174
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	Also, Moostang hit the nail on the head before, I'll explain why in a second.. It's not that we want to over power our horse, it's our horses over powering us this can help with....

12-15-2005, 04:33 PM	#175
ItsAThought Senior Member+ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI Posts: 2,191 Images: 421 Blog Entries: 76	I don't like the words you are using, such as overpower, break down, and so on, because really, with a horse, that is the opposite of what we and they want. We want to be their partner, not a predetor. We want to work in unison and be able to overcome things through time and patience and trust. But I do see where you are comming from, if something were to happen, and you needed to control the horse for his or your own saftey, you would have to "overpower" him, even though they should listen to you in the first place because the horse is submmisve yet trusting. But that doesn't always happen, when a horse panics its very hard for them to see throguh fear...... But How can you use this endorphin tap when a horse is panicing? I thought you said the horse must be calm w/o much brain acticity for the tap to overcome them... so if a horse is freaked out by the starting gate, how could this work?

12-15-2005, 05:06 PM	#176
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	It worked on that occassion because the horse was darting through and wouldn't stop in them, the endorphins slowed him down enough to walk through then eventually stand in there with the front open or closed.. Also, Is this thread that addictive that people that can't stop reader it ? Even the the ones that don't like it ? Where are those cowbells ?

12-15-2005, 05:18 PM	#178
Endorphins4u2 Senior Member+ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 711 Images: 170	OK! don't read over-power "Turn my little horsey's head around a bit, and watch him go to sleepy land..sshhh " moooooooo !